If you were in charge of WoW's story

This makes more sense than the first one. Clearly they need to start teaching peons druidism so that they can all super charge the forests and mass cut down extra limbs.

There wouldn’t be need for a trade cut if the Night Elves had been in the Alliance. Didn’t they simply stop the trade because Alliance and Horde were at war?

If they never got involved in that, they’d just have been able to trade copper for wood, without teaching druidism.

yeah but then we don’t have a bunch of peon druids running around so…???

Yes, that’s my point. They wouldn’t need to teach the orcs if they can just trade and get something in return.

They’d definitely not teach them druidism when they are at war, obviously.

I sincerely think it’s hypocritical of the night elves to scold other cultures for cutting down trees while they alone have magical means of gathering lumber without damaging the environment.

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I would have ‘spared’ Alpha Prime from death in a comic. Having a Wolf Cult around with delusions of grandeur could have been an interesting foil to the generally civilized Gilneans.

I would also have come up with a better name for him.

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Especially when we see them using their druid magic to super charge plants for consumption in other ways - like the druids speedrunning pumpkin growth in Stormwind.

Its the trees themselves that shed the extra limbs, its not cut down… :stuck_out_tongue:

The trade stopped because as far as the Night Elves knew; the Horde, under Garrosh, ambushed the Cenarion Circle meeting and killed any and all Druids present, skinned them and hung them up for shows. Ofcourse we knew it was the Twilight Hammer, but at that time even Hamuul thought Garrosh had send Orcs to murder them all.

Thats the reason the trade was cut, not because of Alliance-Horde dealing but because of a eleborated trap set up by the Twilight Hammer which strained the Night Elf-Orc relationship.

That was the trade deal the Night Elves had with Orgrimmar and the Horde on Kalimdor; except the reason a trade-meeting between Alliance and Horde Druids was set up was because Garrosh started sending in more and more peons into Ashenvale to cut more wood; because in his eyes the Night Elves were either to slow with trading wood to them(harvesting wood by way of wisps is apparently a long process) and he wanted to have more of it in shorter time, and he felt humiliated by having to rely on the “enemy” for something as basic as wood(iirc)!

So Garrosh would’ve invaded Ashenvale eitherway because harving wood with Duridic magic and wisps takes way longer then just cutting them down… + the Night Elves didn’t really need anything the Horde had to offer them! :open_mouth:

I mean, I might be stupid; but aren’t Harvest Witches, and I suppose Kul Tiran Druids being able to do exactly the same?

So, uhhh, there not the only ones capable of doing so… Also… You know… Tauren Druids have been around since after the Third War?

Don’t drag us into this :triumph:

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Kind of the point - NElves are happy sharing their nature magic for food (which others can do also) but when it comes to sharing their lumber magic they’re all oh noooo no one else can do that it’s all oursssss

and then they end up losing Ashenvale. Again.

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Should be done more often. Let’s make it an annual event… No! Monthly!

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There is no indication that the Night Elves did not learn it to the Tauren or even Darkspear Trolls…? I mean, both Malfurion and Hamuul are leaders of the Cenarion Circle, there was a combined Tauren and Night Elf Druid-school(which I doubt was the only one). But somehow only the Night Elf Druids know how to get wood from trees without cutting them down? I don’t buy it.

And even then we see the Cenarion Circle work closely together with wisps; whats to stop, for example Hamuul, from asking them to help them gain wood from trees?

Also the Harvest Witches super-grew food without learning from the Night Elves, so its not that much of a secret :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyways I think its all an eleborate plan from the Taurens to get rid to the Night Elves and allow them to establish themselves as the sole Druidic people on Azeroth! They allow their less intellectual allies to wipe out the Kaldorei; then afterwards the swoop in and teach them the hidden magic of getting wood from living trees! D:<

REEEEEE

Ehh would be a waste to let that Tauren beefs rot; atleast cook em up then! :slight_smile:

EDIT: Holy hell this was supposed to be an off-hand comment and turned into a massive enormous effort post. Read at your peril. (also somebody else do the Forsaken and the Alliance).

I’d just like characters to have arcs - but since arcs mean that characters’ stories have endings, it’ll never happen.

Think I said it before in another thread, or the story forums, but ideally -

The Horde
Over time, Thrall comes to struggle with the fact that his romanticised view of orc culture and society is not one shared or actually practiced by real orcs. The nobility and spirituality he believes in is far more idealistic and compassionate than the savage, mercenary pragmatism of the orc clans. Nonetheless, he strives to civilise the orcs, to turn the Horde into a true nation that in many ways seeks to improve upon the injustices and inequality of the human kingdoms he was raised in, eroding the feudalism of the Horde’s military structure and working to restore the anarchistic equality of Draenor’s tribes, where all members are kin to one another, brothers and sisters by bond. However, his constant thwarting of his generals and soldiers’ more bloodthirsty instincts, and his parleying and peace-making with the Alliance begin to rankle with his protege Garrosh, who, despite adoring and worshipping Thrall, begins to see his mentor as weak, and his idealism as treachery. His suspicions grow into resentment, his resentment into obsession, and eventually - after one concession too many - Garrosh challenges Thrall to a Mak’gora for leadership of the Horde in a blind rage. Always the better warrior, Garrosh ends up brutally beating, and ultimately slaying Thrall in explosive fury - but when the bloodlust ends, Garrosh is immediately stricken with over-whelming remorse and guilt - his grief, and the gnawing shame of his betrayal, slowly eat away at his sanity, driving him from one war-like atrocity to the next, until the once brave and honourable Garrosh has become a war-mongering, imperialist tyrant. Thrall becomes the Obi-Wan-style spirit mentor to an increasingly disillusioned Cairne and Vol’Jin, and a heroic martyr to those of the Horde still faithful to his service, his sacrifice, and his vision. It is Cairne who leads the rebellion against Garrosh, Cairne who overthrows him, and Cairne who is named not Warchief, but merely Chief of the Horde. Cairne has the wisdom, the compassion, and the experience to re-fashion the Horde in the image of the Tauren tribes, and so the Horde becomes, instead, the Clans, no longer devoted to war, but peace.

The Night Elves

Illidan sees the Battle of Mount Hyjal, and the destruction of Nordrassil, as fertile ground on which to sow the seeds of dissent, and to begun recruiting elves to his army on Outland. Fuelled as ever by his ego, his ambition - and, now, his fear of the Legion’s reprisal, he has the Blood Elves conjure a portal to the new Night Elf capital in Astranaar, in flagrant disregard of Malfurion’s edict of exile. To the druid’s fury, Illidan denounces him to the gathered crowds - declaring that Malfurion’s weakness and cowardice, his fear of magic, has cost them their civilisation, and the lives of thousands of their people. Arcane and fel may have brought the Legion to Azeroth, but they are also the only means of arming themselves against demonkind - of protecting the lands and the people they love. He appeals to the all those who have been bereaved and dispossed to come join him, in a Burning Crusade ™ against the Legion. Hundreds of refugees - angry, grief-stricken - begin to slowly flock to his side. Malfurion’s rage is incandescent, but he can’t - and won’t - attack his own people, even those that have turned their back on him, to battle and slay Illidan - especially as his brother’s words seem to have struck a nerve.
Allowing Illidan and his new recruits to leave, Malfurion seeks a balm for his smouldering fury in Tyrande, only to find that the High Priestess seems troubled by Illidan’s words. Having lost many of her sisters in the Temple, and her Sentinel warriors, in vain defence of Nordrassil, Illidan’s speech has stirred her - all of a sudden, it does seem vanity and foolishness to outlaw the most powerful weapons against the Legion in the name of virtue and piety. Malfurion is shocked, dismayed, and outraged - in fury, he castigates a shamed Tyrande, and then withdraws to “meditate”, brooding and festering in the druid’s barrows. WIth their leader withdrawn in isolation, the druids do their best to help the regrowth of their homes and forests, but lack Malfurion’s power and guiding wisdom. Frustrated by their slow progress, struggling under the burden of responsibilities, Tyrande makes the rash, impulsive decision to summon Illidan’s emissaries, beginning the prelude to negotiation. Their secret correspondence grows until, eventually, Tyrande herself meets with Illidan, and journeys with him to the Black Temple. Illidan is as eager to impress and as boastful as ever, but Tyrande is unmoved, treating his appeals coolly. As they move through the Fortress, Tyrande finds herself as fascinated as she is repelled - though the fel disgusts her viscerally, she is intrigued, and gratified by, the sight of enslaved and dominated demons, satiating some vengeful urge in her. Then, Illidan invites her to meet a friend and ally of his - Kael’thas Sunstrider. Though initially hostile and wary, the encounter with the Highborne elf - himself a leader struggling and suffering for a dispossessed people - stirs in Tyrande both sympathy, and memories of the once impregnable power and majesty of the Night Elf Empire. At the end of the meeting, Tyrande has made her decision - she coldly and scornfully rebuffs Illidan as a “demon princeling” cowering in a “toy castle”, and instead invites Kael’thas to a meeting on neutral ground, to discuss the futures of their people. She departs - leaving Illidan cowed and dismayed in her wake.
In the meantime, Malfurion has roused from his brooding - feeling guilt and regret for withdrawing from his people at such a crucial time, he throws himself into the efforts to rebuild, helping the sick, the hungry, and those in need just as he always had, as their kind and benevolent Shan’do. His mood is much improved - but doesn’t last long, as Tyrande’s return from Outland reveals her secret conveyances with Illidan. Learning from her that she plans to negotiate with the Highborne, he is driven once more to fury - Tyrande seems to be throwing away 10,000 years of peace and harmony because of her fears, destroying everything they built together, and over-turning all of his edicts and laws. Motivated by that rage - and, also, secretly, jealousy and betrayal - Malfurion resolves to end the threat of the “Betrayer” to his people, his nation, once and for all, and despite Tyrande’s entreaties, he rallies the druids to march on the Black Temple.
Ironically, the Great Betrayer has found himself betrayed - his forces much diminished as Kael’thas sees in Tyrande’s offer the chance for a real future for his people, one that doesn’t have them as desperate and depraved addicts relying on the caprice of demons, and has withdrawn from the demon hunter’s armies. Nursing the wounds of Tyrande’s rejection and the failure of his gambit, a forlorn and broken Illidan is ill-prepared to face the fury of Malfurion. Their approach hidden beneath a gathering storm, a vast flight of Stormcrows descends on Illidan’s tower - and there, as Malfurion bellows for the Betrayer’s blood, druids and demon hunters do battle beneath black and thundering skies. Yet, as the battle unfolds, the Circle and the Illidari begin to lose heart. Not so long ago, they were kin - family, and friends, brothers and sisters beneath the Moon, now brought to the brink of destruction by their leaders’ feud. Slowly, their fighting falters, then ends - and the druids and the demon hunters withdraw to watch the Stormrage brothers’ titanic duel. Eventually, Malfurion proves the victor - smiting his brother to death with all the fury of the wilds, Illidan’s heartbreak robbing him of the will to fight his own flesh and blood - but in his victory, the seeds of his demise, as Illidan’s poisoned blood seeps into his wounds. Realising his folly, Malfurion sinks to his knees over the broken body of his brother - and there, in the rain, each ragged breath approaching his last, he bids both demon hunters and druids to return to Kalimdor. In silence, feeling the fel searing his veins, he awaits his death in numb contemplation - and soon, slumps to the rain-soaked flags besides his twin.
When Tyrande learns of the death of both of her lovers, she is stricken - all mercy and charity banished from her heart, all doubt and misgiving cast aside. Not only has she lost her Malfurion, the Night Elves have lost their Shan’do, and with him, one of their greatest protectors. Without his patience and compassion to temper her recklessness and vengefulness, and devastated at his loss, Tyrande grows cold, and hard, and hateful. Enough is enough. Now is not the time for half-measures. Calling on all her people - demon hunters, druids, Priestesses and Sentinels - she declares that the Night Elves will no longer be hobbled by the chains of the past. It is time for them to reclaim what is theirs - to rebuild a new, glorious Elunite Empire, with her as its Holy Empress. Yet, in the shadows, a familiar figure watches - helmed and visored, swathed in a sweeping cloak, glaive in hand…

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Woah! Rude!

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Hmmmm, i like the WoW story, in general… but the dragon aspects would not have lost their power… and i would most likely add a dragon race, and perhaps remove the faction restriction. (So you can actually crossrp without potions and enter the other fractions cities)

I’d just refit the story to encompass more factions, some being natural enemies whilst there’s room for diplomatic (cross-faction PvE content) between others.

On Kalimdor, you’d have orcs, trolls and tauren vs night elves, draenei and worgen.

In the east, Stormwind humans, gnomes and dwarves against forsaken, blood elves and forest trolls as subjugated tribes.

Pandaren and goblins would be neutral, with the option to support any faction the player chooses.

I’d go for a larger focus on lower-scale events. Tribal conflicts between the tauren and the centaur, or the orcs and the quillboar, or even orcs and other orcs > invasions from space, planet-cleaving swords, star wars

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