hello everyone how are you!
the reason that im creating this topic is to share something scary with your about my account that happened 5-6 days ago , and meanwhile get some help from you if you ever had something like this.
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So 6 days ago i got banned for the
(Violation: Disruptive Gameplay wow)
my main hobby is : world pvp./m+./and finding transomgs and farming. thats all i do in this game.
for months and years when i was tired of every content in the game i would go stealing leather from the farming groups or hyperspawn groups. (since its a game mechanic. it not against the rules )
i was doing this for years and i had no problem despite of getting so much reports and curses.
But 6 days ago i got banned.
i asked customer support and they told me : Disruptive Gameplay/
i was confused and i didnt know what is Disruptive gameplay/
for the first time after 14 years of playing wow i had to deal with something that i didnt even know what is it.
so for 20 hours i was keep talking to them and asking for the details.
and when i saw they wont say anything i went to google forms and this very forums.
AND still this hour i dont know what i got banned for.
and i checked the email and there was no detail.
and i found a little about it in the internet and in this forums too.
so i had to go and check everything that i did in this 2 months and still i dont know why i got banned. and i went full on it and i check whatever i did in world map near dornogal was not against the Tos.
EVEN after that my ban time was over . i got another mass report from those leather farming groups and this time they reported my name
and i had to talk to one of the gms and he fixed and brought back my name ( tank you!)
so i want to say what i did in this 2 months and please tell me if you can see what i did wrong that i got that Disruptive gameplay.
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M+ i was making my dh stronger with m+ each week.
in the dungeons i never left in the middle of dungeons.,
the only thing that was happening was Argument.
argument and fights.
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world pvp.
me and my friend were going full john wick on the players in alot of realms in the zone near dornogal (especialy the bee zone)
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we were going on the leather farming groups on the zone that are full of bees and big blue wolfs and stealing the leather or skining the shared corpses on the ground and sometimes if the loot was small or low we would tagg the mobs and since there is no quest or main quest or any boss or anything thaat this activity make it broken or anything.
we were doing it.
the only thing that im suspeciouse about is chat
you see when they saw us in the action they were insulting and cursing us so much and we getting atleast 30 reports per day.
because were going full rambo on these leather farming groups
in almost 50 realms.
and we were never insulting or answering back only dancing or saying funny things ( not offensive to them)
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thats all we did.
after i got banned (my friend didnt)
i decided to stop using ingame chat as much as possible.
i almost dont talk in the game anymore.
we stopped using battlenet chat for good and we only talk in discord or skyp/
i dont even use emote or dance.
we stopped going to m+ for good.
we are trying to stop tagging any mobs in the game and we try to be
invisible as much as possible so we cant be targeted and get reported again.
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we did all of these so we may find what we did wrong or atleast dont get ban again/ because i still dont know what is disruptive gameplay ban .
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please share your knowledge with me.
if you know what was the error of my way.
ticket nubers.
EU97742257
EU97744769
EU97750583
EU97780143
thank you so much.
Well there’s your answer.
you mean the chat?>
Unfortunately Blizzard doesn’t do anything about farming bots, even though it’s against their Terms of Service, probably because they don’t want to pay for a GM team that hunts them down and because they actually get subscription revenue from those botters. Because Blizz replaced most GMs with automated processes, you can get suspended if someone with 10 accounts doesn’t like you. It even happens on these forums.
My suggestion: if you really enjoy trolling the botters by skinning their mobs or whatever it is you’re doing, do it with a 2nd account. I also wouldn’t risk my main account doing that.
Hello Benico.
i think i understand whats going on now.
they must have been thinking im there for trolling people and stopping them from playing. while my main goal was farming leather
( when i didn’t find group to join i was going for this)
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But
It wasn’t right for them to ban me like this.
you know . i tried so many times to save this game and i did a good job.
1: in shadowlands. i was one of the first players that made ticket about a group of gold selling multiple account sellers that were abusing a hyperspawn for farming heavy desolate leather.
2: in Dragon flight i was one first players that report rousing order and rousing Air bug ( someone made 30 million gold with this in 10 days)/
3: in zarralek cavern i was making ticket about dudes that are bringing 40 evoker copies and farming day and night without getting tired and destroying economy .
4: in war withing prepatch i was the first player in wow that reported a guy with 500 bots in all of kultiras and zandalar for botting and killing the npcs in freehold (outside of dungeon ) in wm off and on in all realms.
they could atleast tell me the detail of my ban but they didnt.
to be honest i dont know what is wrong or right in this game anymore.
i dont even know if they care about their own Terms of Service anymore. because i even asked them that are the thing im doing there is against the tos and they said no.
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yes benico i have 2 accounts. but im thinking about unsubing.
I just scanned through your wall of text and somewhat difficult to read and understand but I think I got the gist of it.
Disruptive behavior and getting punishment for this would mean you were intentionally harassing the same player(s) over and over again. An example of this would be corpse camping. Where in WM you kill a player and win the battle. The when the player rises you kill them again. Doing this multiple times when they are worth 0 honor and you get no credit anymore is now crossed over to harassment and disruptive behavior.
I want to add my own personal comment to this “bot” situation. Not every single Herbalist, Skinner, Miner or Fisherman in the game is a bot. People need to get over themselves on this issue and start playing the game.
Secondly, and from my perspective, the fact you got punished means you were actually harassing a group of players who may have genuinely be farming for the mount or even skins.
So stop trying to second guess what someone else is doing in game and just get on with your own gameplay and keep in the back of your mind that harassments in any form is punishable and maybe the game can be fun again.
Ignoring OP’s situation, I do question Blizzard’s logic.
I’d have thought that the more reports a player gets in one go (i.e. mass reporting), the less likely it is to be genuine, unless it’s from different players in an instance such as a raid.
hello Ruffntuff
they were not bots in my opinion too. because 90% of them were talking and ect.
the point of creating this post is that i checked all of my activity and even shared it with customer support and none of them were wrong . because i was just using the tools that they gave their players.
for example every player can come and skin the corpse in world map.
or you can go to diffrent realms.
the problem was the chat.
infact we were in wm on 100% of times and they could bring alliance characters to kill other players if they are stealing their leather.
this was a wrong ban in my opinion. and a wrong jugement
How is repeatedly killing someone harassment? If you have WM on, you sign up to kill and be killed. If you (I don’t mean you specifically) feel harassed by dying to other players ingame, you can turn WM off practically anywhere.
@OP I don’t see how taging mobs to annoy people can be fun for anyone. And if they were responding to it by being abusive, they probably were actual players, not bots.
If you were ganking them, then it wouldn’t be an issue, but taging mobs just so they can’t? And they have no way to deal with it cause you are the same faction? Yeah I can see why they would consider it disruptive and you yourself admit you just do it to troll…
Not everyone has max level + geared + PvP viable chars on both factions.
they are more than 8 players in every realm.
this character is low.
and most of the time they were killing me with their alliance char.
Discussing bans, from ingame or on forums, is not allowed. Just mentioning this so you know why your thread will get removed after the weekend.
Anyways, it seems you appealed your ban and didnt get it overturned.
To me that means you definitely did something wrong, no matter if you ‘used the tools the game provided you’.
If i go into Trade Chat and yell obscenities i will get banned, but i technically simply used the tools the game provided me, so i shouldnt get banned?
Blizzard disagrees with your appeal and posting about it on the forums wont change that.
I dont know how long it is but you’ll just have to sit it out and reflect, because i know you know why exactly you got banned (hint: look at you mentioning “chat” several times).
I think what you saw as “funny things” said in chat, were not seen as such by Blizzard, combine that with a bunch of other factors, while on their own fine, all of them together most likely made them decide that crossed the line.
Well, mate if you get into metaphorical fisticuffs with a GROUP of people who can mass report you at the same time you might get auto banned.
Just don’t do it lol.
Like yeah, it sucks even if they are bots and it feels unfair but just don’t do that. Nothing else to do and I think it also sucks Blizzard doesn’t provide details of bans as it violates due process and I think some countries even have legislation that forces online service providers to provide ban reasons if they happen but don’t quote me on that.
your right but im not banned anymore.
i just created this ticket to share it with other and they gave me their opinion.
this will help me alot.
i needed to know what was hapening and i think i understand whats going on now
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i Agree with you.
this topic and doing everything that i said in this 6 days helped me to understand a lot
And people wonder why so many of us CBA with endgame these days.
It’s supposed to be relaxing and fun with a bit of stress for the dopamine hit on success.
Not the gigantic daddy issues arena it has now become.
i Agree .
but when i said fights and argument it was because of the Difficulty of the M+.
M+ is so hard to be honest. and that was the reason for a lot of leavers and fights in M+ in my opinion
I don’t know which of those activities would have caused the ban and I think Blizz should tell someone why they were banned, especially as you are paying a monthly sub and I doubt your game time gets extended by the amount of time you were banned.
How is someone meant to adjust their behaviour if they don’t know what they’ve done wrong?
That’s the problem with some companies that are so huge. You are just a single player amongst millions, so they don’t care if they upset/lose you.
yea thats very bad.
i had to search the internet - asking everyone that i know. creating a post here.
and google about it so much just to know why did i get banned. even going to my screen shots. and thinking about every activity that i had in the game.
Got my thread removed cos i posted someone who exploited the ring upgrades.
Blizz these days dont care about cheaters or botters, as long as the money rolls. Even if they post shiny blue posts like “we banned x bots”.
Like the old say goes:
“Exploit early, exploit often.”
Wonder when they remove this post.
Ban discussions aren’t allowed on the forums, most of the stuff has been already covered by other posters.
They do, for this player it is “Disruptive Gameplay”. *I understand you meant a more thoroughly explained reason like x action(s) made us penalise you.
The time you can’t play, is part of the penalty. It is ridiculous to suggest that you should be compensated for a penalty you did not overturn succesfully.
They don’t want cheaters to get hints or in this case, people to *armchair lawyer discuss the entire day with their appeals team to get it overturned. If you see his 4 mentioned tickets so far, how long will they keep entertaining appeals for something that has definitely happened according to the OP himself?
You literally did break the rules though, you, looting/skinning corpses, is literally game disruption. So like… take the L.