Tbh one of the biggest contributing factors to the state of SV is the players. Constantly saying it’s fine, and L2P. Yet as a whole hunter rep in pvp is 2.5% above 2.4. Lowest in the game, and this as a pure dps class. SV is also the lowest repped spec from all other competitive dps specs. Yet according to all these PhD hunters we are fine.
We would have been fine if they would have left SV ranged. We might have been fine if they would have paid attention during the 2nd rework for BfA. But no, we got some unfinished craptastic dog spec that we sacrifice a range spec for.
That’s it, im done with the hunter forum. Too much incompetence when it comes to this class, i swear to god.
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Don’t let the door hit you in the way out xo
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You never have anything to say that makes sense. Anyway, was fun talking to you, about as fun as gouging my eyes out mind you.
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Et tu brutus.
But I’ll take that as a compliment coming from you
If performance bothers you that much then maybe its good to take a break from the game
Is this some kind of dps thing im too healer & tank to understand?
I’m just saying unless you push for mythic raid or +20’s i don’t see why people would care so much for the little % of damage they do less
Because it’s clearly spec balance that’s keeping him at 1.5k rating rofl.
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I also hate to be that guy but he hasn’t even done heroic curve nor +10 from the looks of it
I do +15’s on most of my characters and i play underpowered specs just fine! ( I play marksman on hunter if that matters aswell )
Granted my highest score is 1200, but all of my chars aren’t far behind except my rogue, dh & warrior
Point being, @OP a buff is not gonna do much to you tbh
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Warrior, just leave and stop talking. You’re as dense as both Aldru and Jerby.
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Or maybe youknow, you could listen to the common sense being thrown in your face, your log is literally filled with +8-9’s, heck this character has probably higher keys than your bloody main and its not even freaking active
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Sadly it’s wasted words on him, at this point he’s just hillariously mad over being proven wrong and disagreed with, evidented by his petty insults xd
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Do what you feel right for you. But i can only tell that when i read some comment that i’m about to trust or consider seriously i check that player raid progress and logs, (if nothing special found, also look in rio). That way you can tell if there is any competence in the statement.
About me and SV, i didn’t touch in Legion and never considered touching it in BFA. When i was start playing hunter, the last thing i wanted is to play melee From the logs i can tell you that its very very unpopular. Just for comparision, take 1st mythic boss kill logs (2 weeks, 90%+): SV: 505, MM: 1295, BM: 12k+. Still, SV as spec in terms of damage rankings is one of the best. As for me people just dont want this spec and doesn’t matter if it does good gamage; personaly i think the reaction (popularity) of the spec would be same if they reworked some mage spec to a melee.
P.S.: I guess i never understand this change.
Even if sv was best dps, it would not be popular because of how piss poor easy bm is to play. The only sv players are thise who don’t jump between specs
Not all people choose spec to play because its easy. I play MM for instance because i don’t like BM even if its better in all scenarios. The current SV is just completely doesn’t fit. I liked (and played) SV in Pandaria and Dreanor times. And now, for me, hunter has 2 specs i can choose from – MM and BM.
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You keep saying that people stay away from SV due to the state of BM.
Can this be the case for some? Probably.
But it’s far from the entire truth.
You also have to account for the fact that SV is now a melee spec. And many hunters, current or past, have little to no interest in melee combat. At least not in terms of when playing as hunters.
Are the above the only reasons as for why players choose to or not, to play SV? Ofc not. There is ofc more to it.
But the current state of difficulty involving BM is hardly an excuse for why SV isn’t highly represented.
I still think SV as melee is fine (still prefer as ranged though), but they have to start paying attention to its current design. Its a mess.
Remove pet dependency. That should be a BM only thing. Add another melee ability, drastically reduce hawk cd, so we can feel more hybrid like when we need to. Attach a slow to bombs, to enable us to kite when needed. Finally remove mongoose as talent and make it baseline, also turn it to nature damage at least during aspect of the hawk, all of this will make SV a reasl versatile melee/ranged hybrids they were looking for.
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only 2 thing i dont like about mm hunter(and i love it to death) is cleave is too few… and that ungodly long cast time for aimed shot (for pvp((arena))) other wise its all good.
but only started doing survival recently, hella fun spec though, slowly but surely getting new gear for it aswell and trying to rotate xD
Eh, those ideas are actually pretty good.
This way aspect of the eagle will also become a dps cd, rather than just range.
These days, people are predominantly using bots to determine the best dps rather than focusing on the best experience.
This is why so many bad updates are coming out, because blizzard are listening to the bot focused people and not the experience focused people.
It does not take a rocket scientist to tell you it will become less fun that way.
Which are mainly done by the top of the top of each individual class and specc yes, with a lot of testing and math going into finding what gives the best result.
Bad updates are more due to homogenization of the game as a whole, with pruning and what not.
The experience focused people actually provide a lot of feedback on what is good and what is bad, but in the end the devs have the final say and we can debate from now and until our sun dies wether or not they listen.
Fun is very subjective, but we can agree that the direction of the class as a whole has split the waters of the players in opinions more so than usually.
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Because for most people doing better damage = help your raid more = better experience.
Are you trolling? Virtually every update made is to cater towards casual players. There is a reason class design is awful right now and it’s not because they are catered towards high skill players that’s for sure.
Just because you have fun picking meme talents doesn’t mean every bodies definition of fun is to just make the rest of your groups life harder.