Either make it 90 second CD like Reneaw is for Druids or make it heal for 15%.
This is a complete joke and insult to all hybrid classes and healers. Healing for 200-240k instantly just to be able to zug harder is not good game design.
I admired Warriors in older expansions with all their macros and micro plays to actually win the game, u used to have macros for Spell reflect equipping shield, using your brain when to Charge (intercept) etc. The good old Swify videos and montages were insane to watch. All of that is gone now. Literal immortal zug class that can’t even be punished for mistakes.
You either do big damage, be tanky or big mobility. Not 3/3. 2/3 is fine, but come on. This is a literal insult to gameplay.
2.5 warriors in Shuffle using Shockwave on immune DR, literally sitting alone behind pillar for 10+ seconds and still surviving. God forbid one of these chimpanzees decides to solo zugzug your healer, NOPE, he will not die no matter how many mistakes he makes.
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U know there is dampening in the game right?
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every class has a ms effect so yea, first of all remove ms from every class besides arms and rog and then we can tal about selfheal issues
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Its always fun reading arms warriors defending themselves. Since it always makes them look clueless.
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Why do people even bother complaining about Warriors? Every patch always ends up being beneficial for them anyway.
I have unsubscribed because of it. I always end up in a solo shuffle with them. And in these solo shuffles they DR stun and LoS healer but still end up winning. The reason is that they can’t get cc’ed because of all the spinning and they can’t die because of all their self-heal while taking less damage from ignore brain.
If you decide to not go for the warrior, then they can peel with banner, intervene, reflect in case people throw CC at them or they can fear you. But ofc they don’t need to reflect fear because they can’t get feared! But if you should happen to then fake the reflect and cast poly or clone then they just spin.
Absolutely zero reason to complain. There is so many changes that have to be done to Warriors in order to not be tilted. Try being a Sub rogue in a lobby with a Warrior who keeps using Shockwave and Stormbolt for no reason. You can beg them to not doing it, but some of them don’t even know what DR means. Or try being a Spriest or Lock. Neither rooting or fearing works lmao.
I am having a hard time finding the MS effect of ele/enh shaman and any mage specc. Can you help me out since you said every class has it?
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coming from a mage is kinda ironic
I don’t main mage. Its my number 5th level 70 in Dragonflight. I main a rogue, although I have really moved more towards casters these later expansions due to rogue lacking much of its traditional playstyle. I still get tilted when facing warriors though. In general I play Ele, Spriest, Lock and Rogue mainly. Warrior is the only class that tilts me on every single one. It’s actually hillarious how you just can’t get away from them at all.
Mate, I swear you are on a mission trying to defend Warriors. But never do you have a legitimate reason to defend them. Now you are using “you are a mage” as a defense because they are your only counter. Like bruh.
There are some Arms warriors like that though xd
They are both on the mission to defend it at all costs but also on the mission to call out nerfs on specs they feel is either annoying or counters them 
maybe go on your retail main and poste on it? idk if ur not a mage
The really bad grammar of warrior players is quite funny, too.
Blizzard knows this.
Yeah… that’s not true. Not every Class has a MS effect.
Bist remove the ms and heal absorb effects from every class. Dampening is enough, or don’t let them stack. This would be a big change for the healers.
I already more or less told him but i assume he has blocked me at this point because i completely destroyed him on every occasion and he can’t deal with the humiliation. 
It’s not about MS efects. It never has been.
Say what you like to justify it. It’s an addiction to tunnelvision zugzug people down and receive zero penalty for it. The start of the season was an ocean of tears from warriors on the forums because they actually died for playing like idiots behind pillars etc.
That’s basically it.
I don’t even care if Warriors can hit people for 200k. Or if any other class can. But at least make it killable.
This isn’t a " ok but then nerf X or X or X in return to compensate". No. When you don’t die to anything and can win by playing in a braindead way, it’s time for class tuning.
Mages are also disgusting, but they die easily to some things like other casters and Hunters. Same can be said for other so so " tanky / immortal specs ".
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dmg overall needs to be nerft aswell i agree 200k all 25 sec is a lot but we need to buff all healers and nerf dmg overall aswell in my eyes
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You cant buff healers more and nerf damage since it would be obnoxious for everyone.
Nerf damage but also nerf the overperforming healers if so unless you want pure dampening games every single time.
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It’s still better to play a game where you can survive big damage with fast reactions and be killable otherwise rather than some immortal simulator where people can’t be punished for mistakes.
I would argue similar things for Windwalker, but the big difference is Windwalker is infinitely easier to CC and kite than a Warrior. It’s hard to kill but literally has 0 uptime and is helpless if people CC spam it.
First of all, I’m german/Turkish English is basically my3 language, but you shouldn’t stay here and rather play arena.
