[ Important? ] Building a better AD

Because you’re derailing the thread. You could make your own thread and talk about whatever you want there.

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Bless you Garzug for this on-topic post :pray:

In general I think if someone is roleplaying in good faith - even if by all metrics they are very new / rusty / obviously don’t know the conventions of RP people should absolutely reach out and give them the time of day. We all sucked at RP at one point and in my experience - since my community recruits new people as part of our practise - for most new guys you can get them up to speed very fast if you invest some time

Yet so it goes that if you run any large open event that disrupts the day to day entropy of small exclusive social RP in Stormwind, you can expect to be shouted at for ours in various channels. There’s a reason why Stormwind (as an example) now has far, far, far fewer big open events then it once did. I think anyone who was around in wrath or so will attest to that

Don’t agree with this 100% but of course I am coming from the PoV of a GM / community leader. I think a guild is a very good place to find your bearings - or rather some guilds. If you’re just thrown in as a new player without any care to that situation and used as a prop for the officers I agree that it is boring and will likely put them off

Also agree and in terms of the PCU we’ve been trying to RP around more than just VoH recently - but in Org I think a major problem is that most districts have a very obvious racial theme. Ie, a tauren district, a troll district and so on. VoH is the most generalist area that isn’t full of OOC spam

I think the drag is actually a cooler zone. Wish people would use that more

Loved old Old Town but I think Blizzard is to blame for this one. They removed the old & very soulful command centre building and filled it with various NPCs and target dummies and also hobbled the Pig and Whistle loads by adding that NPC that makes you dance every 30 minutes

I use Dwarven District more or less as what Old Town used to be on AD - ie. a rough and tumble grimy district with dodgy characters / a big mix of motivations

As I said the perspective for some players ATM is if they don’t personally want to attend some RP they will also try to make sure everyone else knows that and discourage them to their best ability. That’s one of the biggest reasons people aren’t organising IMO

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We could start migrating more RP to the north of the valley, much unused stuff there to facilitate town RP, mostly we’re all at the south side of the river near the barracks and tavern while on the other side there are shops and such gathering dust.

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Spreading rpers too thin is the main problem. I know some guilds like the Dustpaw Caravan have been doing a good job at bringing back the Valley of Wisdom as a RP hub, would love to see more of that. As for the north area by the smith / mining trainer, it’s sort of weird that people don’t rp there. I’ll set up some npcs to try and lure people over there tonight, we’ll see how it goes! (Good idea).

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Dustpaw, along with the Bilgewater Battalion, Eternal Sisterhood and the Highblood Myrmidons plan on using the Drag, Valley of Wisdom and the Valley of Spirits a lot more in the near future.

As far as the Dustpaw goes, we often camp in the Valley of Wisdom, but there’s also been talk of organising commerce RP in the Drag. We think the Drag is criminally unused despite all the cool buildings for RP.

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I’ll write a longer response when I’m on my laptop since mobile typing makes my feeble gaming fingers go owie.

I read a thread some day ago where people where mad at the /y spam from the SW protest. This is understandable, but this isn’t a fault of the PCU. Rather one should point a finger to Blizzards extremely lacking support of RP and the inability to create large-scale RP events without it disturbing others. But this system is what we have to work with. The problem with the SW protests and /y occurs because there is only one town to do town-RP in. If something’s happening in the town you can’t simply pick up and go to another town to find town-rp, because there isn’t one. Goldshire would be the perfect place to go if you don’t want to be a part of a major SW event but still want some town-RP, sadly that is not possible currently.

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Perhaps the logging camp at the border of redridge/elwynn could make a good substitute and there is the north with various abandoned towns and such but those might be less then ideal to use due to their setting/location.

Another great place to RP! This places a responsibility on active RPers to advertise these and spread the words of other towns.

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I was part of a guild that tried to turn Eastvale into RP hub and even managed to get ERPers away from it (at least during main RP hours). Unfortunately, after a while, it died down because outside of guild members, there was rarely any visitor. People just tend to stick to places where they have abundance of roleplay rather than those that have smaller community and are trying to form a hub.

There´s also the whole thing with town RP being pretty difficult to keep interesting, since you have characters that are mostly locked to one small area and dealing with things that many RPers simply might not find interesting in a long run.

I keep seeing comments saying how it would be amazing to come to random town and see people RPing innkeeper or townsfolk who send their hero on some adventure. I don´t think people fully realize that these NPC characters (because that´s really what people talk about in comments like that) have to be RPed by other people on regular basis to achieve this feeling of living world.
That means a group of RPers has to dedicate themselves into doing townsfolk RP, mostly with each other, just so random people passing by (often doing their own RP storylines) can get a good feeling.

You are free to start an Eastvale guild then.

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I think we misunderstood each other. What I hope for Goldshire or Lakeshire could be is RP hubs, not towns which have their own ecosystems.

Which requires them to have their own ecosystems. New hubs can only be created by people who decide to make them into main bases of their guilds and communities, not people visiting the place every once in a while. And even then it can fail because RPers tend to group up where the RP is, which tends to be pre-existing hubs.
It´s really difficult thing to do and just saying “people have the responsibility to do it” doesn´t solve anything.

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I really do wish That Village could be purged for good… No, it’s not the same with ‘just turn on Warmode’.

I’d like to get in some casual RP on this character, and Elwynn was her home. It’s just sad that what should be a common human RP area is… makes aggravated gestures that.


Anyway, a bit more on-topic, it’s nice to see this thread still turning out some good discussion and good advice. Heck, seeing Perroy step down off his meme throne for any length of time is usually worth it :wink: (sincerely, though, I find the slightly more serious posts nearly always more engaging and sensible stuff I can’t disagree with.)

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I mean, Elwynn is legit a fantastic zone to rp in, or well, it would be with the removal of certain, ahem… elements. It lends itself for all different sorts of roleplay, lighthearted and more serious ( anyone remember the quest near Eastvale where two guards got eaten by murlocs? ).

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Goldshire and small area surrounding it is the only problematic place. While there are ERPers all over the zone, it´s mostly pairs of people who will have hard time doing their thing when there are active roleplayers around.
I´d say eastern portion is far better, with Tower of Azora being potential place for mages and similar people, Eastvale for townsfolk and guard tower nearby for soldiers. That´s not to say west is bad, but all it has is barracks and guard tower.
Plus, east is on the border of Redridge and Duskwood, while west borders Westfall, which is far less used area for RP.

Playing out travel rp and chancing encounters with other people is a pretty good way of diversifying roleplay I feel.
The more remote the location, the less likely you are to bump into other people obviously but all it takes is a few pebbles to get a bigger stone rolling.

I would love to see more people wander through the zones in character and stop by random towns along the way. Perhaps you bump into people while you rest that have taken a different route and have something exciting to tell?..

Some of my favourite recent roleplay memories were made possible by that. (Thanks to the colorful bunch of hordies that helped us fight back quillboar in the northern barrens we randomly came across for example)

I’d encourage people to give it a go and not to shy away from engaging with people they havent met before to begin with.
Your actions to actively seek out and engage in roleplay do make it easier for other people around you to do the same.
By breaking the initial wall of uncertainty, you make contacts and through those IC-contacts you increase the number of people to engage with exponentionally because it is easier to get a conversation going if you already met someone before, simple as.
Don’t be afraid, try new things and as many people have pointed out before, most importantly have fun. :wink:

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I honestly don’t think Blizzard will take action on protecting RP servers as its their least concern. I’d be surprised if they do and any time soon.

They’ve responded to things in the past. Added the language potions and removed sharding.
If enough of us communicate issues, we may see action.

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If you don’t ask, you certainly won’t get.

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Pretty much just parroting the two most recent posts here, but yeah - change might be unlikely, but it goes from unlikely to impossible when you choose to be complacent and live with what you’ve got as opposed to making an actual effort to speak up and make your opinions + feedback known

Want change? You can’t sit silently and expect it :no_good_man:

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