[ Important? ] Building a better AD

This thread has been one of the most helpful and best in my opinion as well, leading to pretty cool Roleplay initiatives and activity within Argent Dawn community. I like it.

I reckon most of the things have already been said, but I will just try to wrap the , imo, most useful solutions together in one post:

  1. Free transfers -AWAY- from Argent Dawn.

  2. Stricter moderation by GM’s when it comes to bad behaviour.

  3. Ignore function making the whole toon just dissappear for you, add an option where you can choose to ignore the account too.

That’s the top 3 of suggestions I think would help alot, feel free to remind me if I forgot one!

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And unable to interact with (toys, ganking) in any way outside of intances.

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If you’re flagged, you should show up.
Thats the choice of using warmode and stuff.
But unflagged and so on, I’m all for it.

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RP mode still sounds like a nice idea.
Similar to warmode method of opting in and out.

  • no loot tables, rare spawns, pet battles or even no mobs at all.
  • pvp will have to be done with /pvp toggle
  • opting in/out can only be done in cities/resting areas
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have nelf posters…

dare i say it…

somehow…

become worse than dranei posters?!

Only prochies told of their coming…

Always have been :gun:

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I am aware this will -not- be a solution to the problems we face with the swarm of filthy OOC’ers, but:

with the addition of Chromie and the different timelines to play in respectively, each of them has a seperate phase as I saw it. I am not sure if this is intentional or a bug.

Going for example to Silvermoon in the Legion timeline is a different phase than going to the Silvermoon in the Draenor timeline, which is again a different phase to the BfA timeline.

Perhaps, if Blizzard gives 50+ level characters the option to opt into one of these timelines, big events could happen without any griefers interfering. Or even small ones.

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Anyone noticed the rise of non-RP player names on AD, on each side? Character-names similar to “Murlin”, “Ihazkink” or “Beaverfeaver”.

many great ideas so far.
And RP Mode sounds neat!

And yes i also did notice an influx of OOC Names that clearly are not RP conform :confused:

Tbh, I’ve seen a few ‘non RP’ names that belong to people who 1) use TRP anyway, 2) RP most of the time, 3) are good RPers who are fun to be around, immersive and write well.

Personally, I wrangle the character creator until I CAN find a name that is free and works, but I can also understand why others may just give up with it being stubborn. Mass OOCers like those clogging up a chunk of SW and Org are, imo, far more an important issue than a somewhat outdated/occupied by ancient low level characters naming system.

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This is me aswell. I -will- have a normal sounding name!

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Role Play Mode / Community Mode sounds like a good idea.
Or a personal mode that the player can invite and have control who enters it, no faction restriction too allow Rp-Pvp.

With that they can update / add relative Rules that comes very strict, punish those that does not bind them.

If they add it, They should give people free transfers away from Argent Dawn for a long but limited time.

However if such a system gets in the game it is most likely we losses the (RP) tag on the realm. But i am willing to sacrifice it if be very helpful for everyone.

What i really would like too see is That when you put someone on Ignore, it should really make that person disappear on your screen. And make it account wide so such individual cannot go for a round 2 unless makes a new Blizzard account.

If it occurs during a dungeon / raid with such person it should just be the regular function, once leaves the group or such. It should take it course you will never encounter the player in same group again.

This things would not just be so helpful for just role players like us but everyone that plays wow and certainly give less stress too the Moderation Team that manages support tickets.

Might be much work and time too put that in, but i believe in Blizzard can make this happen!

Finding a name can be difficult to impossible with how many chars are made on the server, by now the thing that makes the most sense is to allow non-rp names as most RPers use TRP anyway. Besides, in the spirit of non-metaing, the Char name shouldnt really matter at all.

… Aren’t Rotgarde the ones going around harassing people under the guise of ‘banter’? Other than the impressive RP walk trains in Orgrimmar I’ve only heard negatively of you.

Anyway. Argent Dawn is full of tourists and people who prefer to be on a realm that feels alive. These are easily filtered out by not having an RP profile or more likely an empty one. Likewise, it’s actually rare to bump into erotic TRPs outside leveling alts and Goldshire/Silvermoon. Can’t do much more than report them and move on.

My major gripe with RP on an RP realm is that it’s already heavily opt-in based. You need an addon, you need to fill it out, you need to do it properly, and the above suggestions only further add a way to be “in the know” to be considered valid.

The entire point of the world feeling alive by being on an RP realm is that it should generally be ‘on’ at all times; not just the ones passing the test by having x and y addon. Thankfully, TRP is pretty baseline, and as mentioned, having one filled to any capacity should be enough to seem engaged in RP.

Building on that: Do names really matter? If you got TRP installed, you clearly have an interest in roleplaying. You can put a custom name, basically ignoring the need for your character to have an RP-friendly name. I like having quirky or memorable names for my characters; does that make me any less validated in RP if I replace it entirely with a TRP name?

There really is no way to better the RP community of AD outside the opt-in of using RP addons. It’ll only make it all the more difficult to get into. An RP realm has never meant more to me than acting in-character while having given your character’s backstory a thought, not having to read 20 pages on policies and ticking 5 addon boxes to be considered a worthwhile RPer.

Isn’t the whole point of RP to socialize? And wanting as many to engage as possible? Surround yourself with the right people who motivate the proper behavior and you can’t do much more without basically gatekeeping as hard as the elitists we keep finding threads about.

I mean, the actual Rotgarde guild are, by their own admission now that Sylv has heel-turned, villain supporters. IC they’re not nice.

On the forums, meh, I do notice a bit of a tendency for ‘pile in’, but on the flip side of that it is a majority of the time against posts/posters who really could have done with engaging a few more brain cells. And I say that as someone who has had beef with the PCU in the past, and never been a member. Recent RP with affiliated guilds has been good, though!

I’m pretty sure there are high-pop PVE or PVP realms that ‘feel alive’, without making large sections of Org and SW basically unusable to RPers on an RP realm? It’s hardly selfish of RPers on an RP realm to want their space to… RP? Heaven forbid.

Not true at all. I’ve run into plenty of people over the years, and prior to TRP being as big as it is (MRP was never quite as widespread), who have RP’d just fine without TRP at all. Just like in real life, an introduction with names and then some observation (description) goes a long way!

Again, though, a mass of OOCers clogging up chunks of the capital doesn’t feel ‘alive’ at all. People may complain about people loitering in Cathedral Square or Valley of Honour, but it’s not like that can use Trade District or the entrance of Org at all, least not for RP.

Here we agree. I don’t really have a problem with ‘non RP’ names, because, you’re right, TRP over-rides that problem, and partially it’s Blizz’s fault for not doing name purges of defunct accounts and level 1 dead alts. We work with what we’re given heh.

There really is no way to better the RP community of AD outside the opt-in of using RP addons. It’ll only make it all the more difficult to get into. An RP realm has never meant more to me than acting in-character while having given your character’s backstory a thought, not having to read 20 pages on policies and ticking 5 addon boxes to be considered a worthwhile RPer.

Isn’t the whole point of RP to socialize? And wanting as many to engage as possible? Surround yourself with the right people who motivate the proper behavior and you can’t do much more without basically gatekeeping as hard as the elitists we keep finding threads about.

I… don’t think anyone said you needed 20 pages of policies or 5 addon boxes ticking? Having GMs who would actually interact and enforce the already existing TOS rules would sure help, particularly when it comes to griefers and the likes of Goldshire…
And you keep bringing up the ‘socialise’ thing, while missing the point that people are not complaining about numbers but what people are doing, i.e. the people who have clearly no intention of ever RPing on an RP realm, which is like… why, though?

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There’s a purge every time a prepatch for an expansion is launched. Just had one recently a lot of old names got unlocked

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Huh. I stand corrected then! :slight_smile:

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Man every time I see you post it is something weird / outraged like this. Why don’t you just type out your complaint plainly instead of this vagueposting stuff. If you’ve had some bad experience you can even link me screenshots of that (though ideally in a thread related to the Rotgarde)

To reply to the question I think you’re mistaken - the Rotgarde don’t even hang around in Orgrimmar in any sense given that they are exiled / wanted criminals as a Banshee loyalist group. If you’ve only heard negatively then I’m thinking just as with anything else that is coloured by the people you’re surrounded with

I think it would be cool if they contributed to the feeling alive thing if they think it’s positive, but the OOCer issue isn’t really the topic of this thread

Don’t agree with this one at all. Do you RP around Stormwind/Orgrimmar at all? It’s sadly pretty common in big hubs

To be honest I do think that a built-in lightweight version of TRP would be cool. I see a lot of OOC people using flag addons because adding a note / extra name / whatever to your character can be appealing even if you don’t RP so I don’t think it would be super exclusive (though also I think that will never happen)

In my experience it isn’t so hard right now to jump in to RP even without an addon / knowledge etc if the people you’re RPing with react reasonably to you being a new roleplayer and are willing to bear with you. People should be doing this but of course it can be hit and miss

I’d say 50 / 50 really on this one. I don’t care that much if someone has a name that is technically against the naming policy but otherwise harmless - ie. the famous trend of word names like Valorous, Fearless, Dauntless etc etc around WoD . Think it’s a case of if a name is in bad faith - like there is a big different between seeing John the Bold (Character name: Bold) and Pvpqtx (Character name: Pvpqtx)

Does that make sense?

I think a pop-up warning like you get on Full realms saying “This is an RP realm, you should be in that mindset if you play here or at least not disrupt the events etc” would be fine, a one second click window isn’t going to break the camel’s back

Re. RP addons are there even any beyond TRP3 and Listener? I used to RP with neither when I started but I agree that you basically need the former in many cases now (and the latter if you’re at busy events / campaigns)

No, not really. It’s more like creative writing / a dumbed down DnD kind of deal I’d say. You don’t want to get into the mindset that you = your RP character

I think posting buzzwords like muh gatekeeping etc is pretty tired and doesn’t really make a point. This isn’t Twitter.com so you don’t need to sling those out IMO

In terms of gatekeeping - yeah, I’d absolutely love to lock the gate on people ERPing in public / griefing RP. I think it’s pretty absurd to say otherwise

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