Everyday, I farm an hour or soo in Zaralek Caverns and its INSANE the amount of BOTS that are farming no wonder why mat prices are tanking so hard… Why is this such a huge issue in the game? Multi boxers went on a huge decline why hasn’t this-I honestly refuse to pay sub rather pay in gold for this game at the moment.
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apparently a company that’s about to be acquired for 70 billion dollars can’t handle botting
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Either because blizz profits from it or because it’s impossible to reliably detect. Which one’s the truth? We’ll never know.
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They action a huge number of accounts. Problem with most actioned accounts is they just start another one.
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i think the real issue is there are no restrictions on creating an account so people just create new ones for the accounts that get banned. any kind of restriction (like 2fa or trade restrictions on new accs) would face criticism by liberal thinking players who actually believes their phone number isn’t already out there on the internet being sold for a few dollars.
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yes but they have a big profit in this if the banned guy buy another account one day after getting his first account locked and starting to botting again.
the problem is the engine of the game that is old af and it allows the creator of this bots or the guy who does.
but since they have a big profit in locking their account so the guy buy and start another we will never see a wow without bots
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yes it probably has a big portion in the subscription count but it’s at a point where it become an image problem for WoW. makes the company look weak , especially the wotlk classic bots which is a way bigger issue than retail bots.
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100%
when the number of bots goes too big they does a ban wave and the normal players think :wow man blizzard team destroyed them all at the same time
and they wait for the next day so the banned gold sellers(bot users) buy another account and does it 15 hours or more per day again till their numbers goes up and they do a ban wave again so they bring this glorious image for themself and they have profit in it at the same time.
but there is something else though / zaralek cavern is empty most of the time
when these bots are moving around almost 2 days in row without going offline
the normal player who are passing or coming there for quests they will think wow there are so many players here its not empty
they have a big profit in this
i myself tried to ban so many of them and banned so many of them with reports
thats why i can see deep in this
the only thing they can do vs bots is another wow token a newer one. (wotlk classic vibes)
i dont understand what do you mean?
An easy fix to make it already harder for multiboxers would be to remove the ability to launch several instances of WoW. Just code it so that if you start WoW another time the former instance of the client closes before restarting on a PC.
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Because capitalism makes it beneficial to ignore the bots 364 days of the year and have a once-per-year ban wave just for the show to increase reputation among the players.
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Literally true
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Problem is they need to be banned frequently until Blizzard finds a permanent solution. Farmer Bots, AH Bots (Snipes, posts all day), Rated BG Bots etc. If something worths gold, there is always a bot/botting program for it. If you don’t ban them, they will reproduce like insects. But even in the nature insect population reduces vastly because nature simply eleminates them with different kind of ways. Here Blizzard is the mother nature. If they don’t act , this swarm of bots will make game unplayable. Again if you can’t ban them all, ban frequently, even a small damage to their wallet will make difference.
Other problem is TSM/Auction Addons. If a person can undercut you 10 times faster, it’s a problem. If they do it with 10 people in a region wide auction house, you can consider it as market manipulation. Why would they do such a thing? Because they can easyly sit on hundreds of millions golds. Also those addons are capable to write macros on them which leads almost automation.
Killing Auction Addons will hit them more than ever. Because real gold is at Auction House.
Also why Auction House data is provided to public? People are using that data to snipe valuable items from Auction House. It’s getting abused. That data shouldn’t be given away from Blizzard API.
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guys all you said is true .
all of these ways can fix the problem or part of it , but the problem is that blizzard have a big big profit in this /
they can remove the root of bots and AH clowns in 1 single day but they dont want to .
if you read what i said above you will understand why wow cant get rid of bots and things like this
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classic wow have huge amount of bots. they sell gold and blizzard introduced the wow token in classic rather than banning the bots.
Problem a lot of people made videos about is there is a point where botting generates real money. and blizzard should ban bots faster so it is not that profitable for them to bot in wow. But here we are they ban bots every 6 months or whatever and in that time they made more money than subscription would cost.
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There is a portion of the playerbase don’t like the authenticator and refuse to have it on their account because they have to let Blizzard know their mobile number. I have no idea how more security would be perceived.
There is also a balance to be struck between allowing people to play a game and making it easy to do so and having too many hoops to jump through.
Are there other games with stricter account making policies? I’m not aware of any personally. Most you can just set up, fill in your details and go.
that would hurt no-one, it’s not like blizzard is scamming people with fake offers , we already give them credit card infos which is way more private than phone numbers(again, they’re all over the internet anyways) so i don’t understand the reasoning behind it. also, if they want 20 years old game that already barely manages to stay stable to not have bots then you need accept something. it’s not fair to expect wow to have less bots than new mmos.
As far as I’m aware when it comes to cheating using software, once they discover the cheat they go after all the people abusing it at once and that’s when you get big ban waves.
They are actioning a lot of accounts all the time but it’s a constant cycle. I don’t think anything will ever please the playerbase on this front. Even when they try to show how many accounts were actioned in Wrath. When something is reported it has to be investigated, that’s only fair to any of us. Imagine being falsely reported and getting banned for something you didn’t do.
Total Exploitative WoW Account Actions Last Month: 167799
TSM etc is a different issue. These are addons that are permitted in the game, it’s not considered cheating. Blizzard would have to change their stance and although TSM does a lot of it for you, my understanding is people will just use macros instead. There are obviously people who just play the AH and use this powerful tool to do so.
You say that, but every time Blizzard puts a reminder up about account security and the mobile phone authenticator we have people upset and refuse.
Personally I have no issue with Blizzard knowing my mobile number as a layer of security just like they have all the other personal details when I set up my account. I prefer the extra layer of security and have always used an authenticator since they first launched the keyfob ones.
What games do manage to battle bots well? I’m curious what they do different. I never last long enough at other games and always end up in WoW again 