Instead of fighting against HvH

Why don’t you push for something that actually helps fixing the game? I don’t understand: removing HvH does nothing to help Alliance, they only keep that one single advantage that shouldn’t even be restricted to one faction, both factions should be able to play BGs without waiting for unreasonable amount of times.

There is no way to fix the current issue without actually doing something more desperate or extreme. Even if they did balance out racials next week, I highly doubt it will fix the actual issue. The vast majority won’t change faction JUST because they buffed Alliance racials, the Horde ones are good anyway and most people just prefer to stay with their friends anyway, there are so many reasons why they just won’t do it.

This is how it is, and if you want to fix it, then (IMO) the only way would be to do either all of this or a mix (and yes I KNOW these are extreme, but nothing will ever change without some extreme actions, they either do this and try to fix the problems, or just let things continue):
1 - Implement on each realm some sort of check with A:H ratio, it has to be kept within those ratios (60:40, 55:45, they can choose the numbers)
2 - Use these ratios to prevent characters from being created on the popular faction on each realm (can’t create Alliance characters on Alliance dominated realms, same for Horde)
3 - Use these ratios to prevent characters from being transferred to another dominated realm of your own faction (if you’re Horde, you can’t transfer to a Horde dominated realm, same for Alliance)
4 - Allow both free faction changes IF you’re the dominating faction (you can’t change faction if your character is in the minority faction) and free realm transfer to realms that are not dominated by your faction (Horde can’t transfer to a Horde dominated realm, same for Alliance), while using the ratios from point 1 to decide whether or not these services can be used (I guess they need to check the total population aswell, otherwise everyone will just transfer to Firemaw)
5 - If extremely necessary to fix the issue, implement faction queues so that these ratios are constantly kept in-game too (yes I know realms dominated by one faction would be unplayable, and I know it’s extreme, but hey, do you want to fix the unbalance? gotta be extreme).

You are all acting as if removing HvH and buffing Alliance racials will solve the problems Alliance is facing. They won’t.

“A major point of discussion was the perception that the faction a majority of players chose for their main character would see all players switch to it, unless we change the game to either reward the minority faction, punish the majority faction, or prevent players from choosing to play on the majority faction in the first place. As you can see (and has been discussed at great length here and elsewhere), most such changes that might come to mind would conflict with our stated goals above.”

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I understand, and I remember reading this, but I still can’t see any other way to fix the issues. HvH or no HvH, buff Alliance racials or not, the game will just become one faction either way.

Because chance of getting actual fix created for ally is pretty much none, its pretty much uselees to even try because MUH MAJORITY DONT HURT ZUG

They should have solved this before launch, now its too late. maybe they will try to do something before wotlk. but I doubt it.

Blizzard can do one and only thing perfectly. Remind you of your remaining game time.

We’ve suggested plenty of things that are better alternatives than HvH (long term).

As it stands (overall) horde racials are better for both PvE and PvP (yes I know you’ll say but stoneform so good).

In Classic Alliance had a numbers advantage overall (not in PvP) due to meta slaves playing Alliance for Paladins (easy does it).

  • What has happened in TBC Classic is that anyone that wants to PvP goes Horde because of all the advantages and few drawbacks.

  • Anyone that does both PvP and PvE will also go Horde, same as above.

  • Those that only PvE stay Alliance but soon realise there is no future for the Alliance faction in TBC Classic and eventually quits the game because there is a lack of players (same as retail from what I understand).

By adding HvH you simply remove the downside of 1 and 2.

How can this be fixed? Well, it can’t with HvH in the game other than removing factions (won’t happen) or allowing faction change for Alliance (so that all Alliance players have a shot at playing the game in later phases).

HvH will simply discourage anyone from being Alliance because Horde has all the advantages.

They cant even get things right, having you track someones honorable kill count… and you think they will do anything right? :stuck_out_tongue:

maybe they will try to do something before wotlk

Ye. They’ll nerf EMFH in WOTLK :rofl:

Well something I suggested long ago

You don’t need vast majority to change, 5-10% of totall population will be more than enough to break the trend.

Uhm, isn’t this exactly the HvH is aimed to prevent but specifically for BGs? What are you smoking dude.

TBH, I would not be surprised, mate. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Nah probably not. They’ll make too much money on faction transfers.

Another person who thinks forcing people to play one faction or forcing a faction equalisation will work. All that will happen is they will stop playing, and Blizzard don’t want that.

and they don’t understand the matching system at all either.

There is also a major flaw in point 4, you cannot have both factions on one PvP realm.

Because they dont want 90% of the alliance players to be humans. Not to mention, in classic and in vanilla 90% of alliance where humans anyways.

I’m being sarcastic over the horde players long time ago saying every bg they play are against humans only.

Yea that was in WoD right? Didn’t actually play then but I heard every PvPer was human before they nerfed the racial in Legion.

yes and its an example of a player caused problem, similar to the current tbc classic. but alliance never made a denial biased claim that the average wow player tends to find alliance faction more attractive as how some horde players do currently in tbc classic to cover up the real problem and issues that’s destroying the aspects in few other points

No, you see Alliance always had better racials it’s just that people only started rerolling for PvP racials in WotLK. In previous expansion people choose their race for purely aesthetic reasons.

Wow had 70% of its player base playing alliance when wow was released when it came to aesthetic reasons. what are you saying? pvp was all about premade, you play horde solo que you’ll get roflstomped by ally premade , you play ally solo que you’ll get roflstomped by horde premade all day long.

I didn’t incluse the /s but it was implied ^^

yea i pointed out if it was for aesthetic reasons alliance had more population, there was no influence on those reasons like today. while in tbc classic, horde has more population for over rated racial reasons, similarly to faction imbalance against horde in wod. In which again, is a player created problem from outer influence.