The Tidemother’s presence is absolute, without HER to serve as our beacon, our guide, the children of the sea would be lost amidst the violent storm
Hello gamers, I bring to the table yet another community project, this time touching upon the Kul Tiran themes. This time delving into the religious themes surrounding the Tidesage concept.
This is something I have discussed with one or two other gamers, the idea consisting of setting up a community gathering for the Tidesage/Tideguard community.
This project is still a work in progress; however, I found myself curious of whether or not there would be much interest for something of the sort.
Let me know your thoughts and so on.
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Sign up my Tideguard Bilgemoore for this! I would love to help any way I can.
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Getting ready my own Tideguard when this swung around, so this it pretty perfect timing!
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I’ll admit I am legit contemplating forming this into a guild, it would be pretty based to have a Tidesage guild roaming about.
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We do need one and I think there is enough support for it, after all it doesn’t call for being gigantic as long as there is a solid few that will partake! As you know, you got my support in this!
That is certainly true, even having a handful of active folks is a good thing and it allows focus on those who are present, while being open to new members joining in.
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Sounds perfect to me and looking forward to kicking it off!
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I’d support this. Though that said I only rp casually atm as I’m focusing on this char ooc. But he’s a tidesage of the martial variety similar to brother Iron Hull in sots. I have more time than i did now I can fly though so actually yeah, I’d be up for a guild like that and helping it to get off the ground as the Tidesage thing is a ripe RP scene that hasn’t been explored uniquely yet in terms of guilds etc.
I have a question though, wouldn’t it be pertinent to clarify your stance / guild stance on the theology of the Tidemother? "we’ve had a corrupt tidesgae community crop up recently and I think making it clear what the faith is and isn’t would be useful. Even in general as the game only gives us so much and leaves the rest to interpretation, so you could have different conceptions amongst members (maybe you support that?)
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The initial stance we’re going for is that of Brother Pike’s stance, in the form of standing against the corruption that plagued Stormsong(the void etc) to ensure history doesn’t repeat itself or plague the sacred order anymore.
I do agree that there hasn’t been much explanation in game regarding who or what the Tidemother is; however, that is something I am keen to explore IC through role play, be it through debates and the likes, as everyone IC may have their own view on who or what the Tidemother is.
The one thing that will be mentioned IC is heeding caution when peering into the waters, instilling the message of those peering too deeply being driven into madness by the cacophony of whispers.
I hope that makes sense, haha!
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All words I support, it’s a perfect platform to allow personal differences in belief with one stance of it being dangerous to dwell too deeply.
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Yeah I’m totally cool with a more Liberal stance on interpretation so long as some core creeds unite (ie your point about avoiding peering too deep and generally seeking to clean up the tidesage name after stormsong, as well as what rites exist aka blessing ships, sending off the dead etc.)
Brother Loaken here has a pantheistic interpretation of the Tidemother. So he doesn’t believe the name refers to a person or individual diety, rather it’s a term of resoect/endearment for what he perceives is a divinely guided interaction of natural forces - the sea, the wind and the lands of islands. Similar to how people use terms like “mother nature” but dont mean a literal woman mother figure necessarily exists, rather it’s the name given to the delicate interactions of the natural world.
He still believes these divine forces have some kind of traits though, like shipwrecking the disrespectful and awarding favourable winds and yields of rain to the pious. There just isnt a single face behind it all for him. Effigies of kraken, fish and such as used to provide a symbolism rather than depict a literal truth.
It’d be really cool to discuss such IC. The Tidesages come across as quite scholastic (their monasteries and titling of sister and brother heavily resemble the monasteries of the medieval period when scholastic monasticism was at an all time high) so I can imagine they discuss such things at length whilst tending the scrolls or cultivating herbs in their monasteries.
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I wholly agree with you on this subject, a liberal stance IC can also bring forward the potential for healthy debates. It was known that scholars have healthy debates here and there, given the scholarly nature of the Tidesages it’s something we can definitely build on.
Yes, the whole righting the wrongs committed by Lord Stormsong is the route I’ll be taking advantage of. Setting up some events to cleanse what remains of the corruption, hosting sermons, hell even offer blessings to the vessels/ships used by allies, as well as offer services in campaigns.
There’s a plethora of options we can utilize and that is something I am keen to do. I have so many ideas to mess around with.
Another thing to bring up is the potential of expanding this project cross faction, should the lore allow(given the presence of forsaken Tidesages being portrayed!)
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Well I’m on most evenings on this chap. Where things need bringing to bear to help facilitate then I’d be happy to be contacted.
The forsaken idea is very unique and quite interesting. Like a Drowned Chapter within the order?
Where I’ve mulled over such in my head when discussing tidesage rp on the forums (this was back in a thread regarding which classes should be Tidesages I think) I thought of chapter names to consolidate them via whether the individual tidesage channels the wrath of the oceans against pilferers of Kul Tiras and the oceans (Bell Chapter) whether they focus on restorative magic and blessings/rite (Lamp Chapter) and whether they have martial training and probably have previous experience as sailors, fighters, soldiers or adventurers (Anchor Chapter).
I’m just mind farting aloud here mind. My point is because the term Tidesage is quite ambiguous in terms of classes and powers (they’re shown to have arcane powers, void powers, nature magic, capacity in melee) it makes for many possible explorations in how the order can look, rather than a strictly “all robes and rituals” priesthood per say.
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Yeah, definitely. I have a forsaken Tidesage as well(I have three Tidesages, I may have a problem. LMAO).
Deciding on a class to portray a tidesage can be a deciding thing, especially with the different areas one can explore such as the different pathways, as you’ve mentioned in your post. I must say, the ideas you’ve mentioned do sound interesting and rather unique!
That is definitely true, it’s all something we can discuss IC and OOC.
Speaking of matters, the discord server has been set up. ![:slight_smile:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
If folks want an invite contact me on discord Nytheria#6742
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You sure like your tidesages ![:smiley:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/smiley.png?v=6" ":smiley:")
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You’re not wrong there! K e k
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FFFffffff-- What is this Heresy???
(I’m totally up for this guild idea, however! 
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There’s a plot twist, the guild has been made. Although it’s in the early stages of planning. : D
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Come join us! It would be amazing to RP with you more than I done previously!
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Yeeeessssss count me in! Even if I am only a (forced, alas) casual rper.
Maybe it’s an idea to get in touch with Penkelly (I think that’s his name?) in regards to his corrupted Tidesage initiative. How fun would it be to coöperate and not knowing who of the Tidesages is corrupted and who is not!?
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