Is Blizzard really this out of touch?

I doubt seriously devs or GMs read these threads so this is more of a rant/comment on my observance of their decision to remove Joyous Journeys buff come wrath launch.

I know some people want to level at a slower speed, 100% respectable and you have the option to remove the buff at any innkeeper, HOWEVER, here is whete my chief complaint lies…

People on the classic servers are interested in keeping up with the current expansion (i.e. Wotll now), and i could understand from a business point removing it of Blizzard were to allow the sale of multiple 70 boosts, but seeing as you get only 1 per account, im struggling to understand why they are going to make leveling alts 1-69 even remotely less appealing than it already is without the buff, especially for player who want to get to Northrend asap. Im not a “gimme easy stuff” person, but at the speed they are releasing this content, people who enjoy a wode array of classes may not have time to fully enjoy the current expansion when leveling old content takes so long. I personally felt the exp buff really alleviated a lot of that stress of leveling and even got a chance to do a few raids before wrath release.

Im mot saying it should apply frkn 70-80, but defontely they need to consider keeping it feom 1-68 or 69, that will ensure future alts at least stand a chance of having any kind of leveling environment outside of solo’ing quests all day.

Just my 2 cents as an alt-o-holic, and my autocorre t is off if i made a lot of typos sorry.

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Ye, 1-69 without joyjoys and without RDF is going to be real fun …

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I don’t agree with RDF, like I said, i’m not a “gimme person”, but I think it absolutely destroys the incentive to continue leveling alts at the basic Wrath leveling speed.

My biggest issue is that from a business standpoint, and knowing full well the server populations will absolutely crash except for a select few, and only offering ONE level 70 boost for sale, I trully don’t understand their purpose of removing this buff for 1-68. It is a vitalizing component to alt leveling and at least can keep the 1-68 dungeons on life support for a while.

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Leveling will feel so crazy slow as soon as the buff is gone. I’m afraid I’ll loose interest in leveling at all due to that now that we’re used to the joyous journey buff. :persevere:

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You can always download Dota or Lol, lvling takes no more than half an hour there. Or play on private servers where from the start lvl 80. Why not?

I dont think the buff should apply to 68+ merely because at the speed intended you get to fully experience the wrath storyline, but i mentally dont want to do 58 levels of classic again and BC to 68 in 5-6 days played amd feel burnout by the time i get to Northrend.

I know with a lot of the QoL changes to classic the younger generation is invested in it too, but im a grown man with a family and a kid now, 3-4 hours playong a day is a priviledge, ine which i feel conpletely rewarded when im immersed in an expanison im invested in, not one im doing for the 10th time on repeat in a couple of years.

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I imagine it’s because WotLK adds heirlooms to the game. So people using those combined with the buff would be levelling too fast for Blizzard. Wouldn’t surprise me if this was the reason why, or a major reason why at least.

I’d much rather just have the buff until 68, heirlooms totally destroy visual gear progression which is a core aspect of classic and RPGs. It’s incredibly stupid to see level 1s running around in dungeon set gear. A buff is much less in your face.

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Excactly this for me.

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IMHO keep Joyous Journeys buff forever 1-70. The buff automatically disables in Northrend or when Heirlooms equipped.

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Why not give everybody lvl 80 of every 10 classes, being able to switch between Horde and Alliance and any race at will and server change for free?

Seriously 1-60 is allready nerfed in TBC prepatch by 33%, now 61-70 is nerfed as well in Wrath prepatch. Heirlooms are soon to be available and you still need more and for free?

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Yea wtf blizz, removing joyous journeys sucks mon.

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Because I do not like them as some others. Heirlooms make Gear Progression useless and where a typical example of good ment is not good done. Even in Retail when they tried to not use everyone heirloom by making them weaker then their current level suited gear will not drop heirlooms because of that as in the long run they will outgear that one automatic.
So if Blizzard really would have wanted to change WotLK for better, this would be a thing as disabling gear progression is disabling one of the core aspects.

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But adding more exp bonus isn’t a solution either. You skip too many quests giving you gear and not just gold and some exp and you visit less instances per level, so your chances of obtaining gear from it are dropping as well. That makes your character level grow faster that your gear ilvl (same situation as with boosted character having crappy gear) and your character becomes weaker agains mobs of the same level. Heirlooms kinda counter balance that effect, making sure you are not loosing character power due to getting less loot in accelerated leveling.

But WotLK does this anyway by adding heirlooms.

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I meant pure exp bonus for 70-80 levels, just like many suggesting to keep Joyful Journeys buff up to 80.

I haven’t seen anyone asking for Joyous Journeys being enabled in Northrend but heirlooms are.

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just get heirlooms and leveling is even easier than it is now

Joyous journeys isn’t going to exist anymore, The xp squish for outland and azeroth however will, Not to mention getting heirlooms. I’m pretty sure lvling alts is going to be fine.

I disagree with your arguments for two reasons. 1) The xp squish for Azeroth and Outland is still far subpar to the exp with joyous journey’s. 2) Getting heirlooms doesn’t change teh fact that we are pushing expansions at the rate of about 1 year’s time, and most people this game catered to back in the day, will probably only be able to heavily invest in one, maybe two characters at most.

An honorable mention thought, Heirlooms should not be the crutch. Heirlooms are nice, but they also built the mentality of people over-expecting performance in dungeons. You will soon, very soon have people only grouping with people with other heirlooms, or most DEFINITELY if not said, people will automatically get demoralized when they join any leveling dungeon pre-68 and see a tank, or dps in questing gear vs heirlooms. I mean, it is sad that in retail, when you see a tank or anyone not wearing heirlooms, you automatically “Assume” they are a new player and just expect the dps to carry the group. Like i said, even if it’s not SAID, a tank in full heirlooms straight up can carry most groups pre-70, i know as a vanilla prot pally main. So Blizzard either makes it appealing for people not having to farm heirlooms and level a little bit faster with more options, or basically have one group member in a dungeon practically boosting the entire group with their 3k hp at level 20 in deadmines full of heirlooms and enchants. Personally, i’d like an experience boost to fully enjoy my character vs staring at the same heirlooms for 70 levels. They could make it so heirloom exp does not stack with joyous journey thereby only granting the stat bonuses, still useful, but everyone is on the same playing field since most people will be running Heirlooms and insane wrath chants.

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Actually its more like 1.3 years, TBC took way more than just one year, I expect WOTLK is going to stick around for a little longer. As for your argument about dungeons, Who cares? anything before 80 in terms of dungeon content is irellevant, And if you cant get enough gold going from 1 to 80 to have good enough gear to get into heroics/raiding i dont know what to tell you buddy. I also seriously doubt 90% of the playerbase are going to factor wether you have heirlooms into wether you can dungeon or not.