What do you mean you can’t get enough gold between 1-80, you can get almost 6k alone just from Outlands questing, not to mention profession materials for classic and BC will skyrocket on the AH.
I never said it will “Affect getting in a dungeon” I said, heirlooms develop the mentality, whether its spoken or not, that without heirlooms a character will perform subpar and therefore slow a group down. I didn’t say they would be kicked or rejected, but i defintely recall back in vanilla wrath knowing when a group had full heirlooms it wouldn’t even be a challenge.
Anyone who seriously disagrees with Joyous Journeys being kept for 1-68 is either a) a troll b) someone who has very little interest in alts, or may only level 1 or 2 mains 3) or just an elitist with characteristics of both 1 & 2 that is just a miserable person in RL and needs to project it on others.
There is absolutely no argument for removing Joyous Journeys, if your chief argument is “get heirlooms” you’re basically agreeing that leveling with them is as fast as joyous journeys, except some people may not want to stare at the same stupid heirloom for days and days, but i’m guessing you’re too young to have played vanilla Wrath and remember how long it took for anyone other than tanks or healers to properly farm those heirlooms. The excuse about gold and experience is the most ridiculous thing you could even come up with, because with heirlooms you literally can one button smash your way to 70, if you even know what heirlooms were like in the day and not just a retail millennial coming to crap on our game.
If Blizzard keep the buff, then that would be out of touch. They definitely aren’t going to keep it as it will mess up all the questing zones like it has done in Azeroth.
You want them to cater to alts AND mains? Alts are like second class citizens, stains on your shoe. You can’t have the buff while others don’t, how strange it would be for the experience to see the same player levelling who suddenly gets two levels ahead a few hours later.
The XP that buff gives that higher levels is absolutely stupid, so of course there’s those like yourself trying to justify the ease of levelling although you’ve tried to say otherwise. Players should be lucky they even introduced it in the first place.
They’re also quite boring since you don’t have to update these gear slots at all. Just put them on and be done. Kinda kills the feeling of character progression.
Yeah, not the biggest fan of heirlooms and what they did to levelling, but since they were part of WotLK OG I’m not going to argue against their presence in WotLKC.
Agreed 100%. Not only do heirlooms remove half the need to gear up and feel of feeling stronger but they also give you stats beyond what you’d otherwise have thus trivializing the questing experience.
I’d rather have the buff. 55-58 was painful and I seriously dread doing it again without the buff. Perhaps make it only last till 68 though because if it only lasted till 70 if in Outland then people would complain that it was more efficient to stay in Outland till 70 and not move to Northrend at 68.
I think the buff is essential.
Leveling in classic for me turns into a meatgrinder really fast and the big class skills are ‘days of playtime’ away. So excuse me but whether it’s classic or retail, I’d like to escape that auto-attacking / 1 skill - zone as fast as possible. There’s little engagement and variety to keep it fresh so I hope the buff can stay around to atleast bridge that initial deadzone that stems from another era. And if you enjoy that more power to you.
There is a ridiculously simple compromise to this.
Once you have a level 70 character, you have the option to activate Joyous Journeys on any alts of your choosing. Literally like a toggle that you are rewarded with for having a level 70 character.
For every level 70 you have, maybe add 10% (again optional) extra exp.
I cannot see how this would harm the game in the slightest. Lots of people want to play multiple characters in this expansion and Blizzard would be foolish not to facilitate this.
And what stops them from doing it without the buff? The “Race to the red light”-meta that has to pressure players into pushing everything they have to its full efficiency in fear of missing out? Then complain about the lack of content and release of a new phase?
Who is missing out and what are they missing out on? The min/maxer who already has 3 70s on Fresh? The 3-hour/day player that is about to step foot into Zul Farrak?
There’s boats going to Northrend all year long.
People are in a hurry constantly, over nothing at all.
The big problem isnt the leveling speed, but the fact that Blizzard introduced this “bonus” to a greedy community that rather waited to level 2 months for the buff and complained about its release on the forums, than took those same 2 months to level, because it wouldn’t feel efficient.
Remember the “Release the Buff Blizzard, I have nothing to do”-posts?
Its not about people being in a hurry, or saving time, its about the feeling that somehow you simply are more efficient in a game made to waste time - even tho the coming 3 weeks after a 80 (or 70) ding with the buff would be spent on standing AFK in a city. Carrots on a stick.
Just to reply to your title, i am believe that from a few years to this day Blizzard has lost touch not in every aspect of the game but some things that happened for a few years now has made me sad because i have grew up cherishing the games that Blizzard has created since Warcraft 1.
If Blizzard has lost touch i have to say that the community itself, the players in general have also lost touch.
Actually I am in a hurry. I constantly miss events in WoW Classic because I am so slow at leveling that by this time after all this years I still only have on 70 character. Personally I wish we could choose when we transition from one Add-on to another. Or at least get every one to two years the option to clone on next version.
I really hoped that the talk about Classic being museum back then ment, we would even as a late commer have the chance to see events. But for me sadly, I have to change my speed and so have to race for my equivalents.
That what I may consider as racing is maybe for the other only jogging or even walking is a fact I am aware off. Still I find it sad.