Im reading more and more threads on here where people recommend the PvE of FF 14 over the current PvE in Wow and i tried FF 14 for some hours too but im somehow as a beginners experience would rather say the opposite.
Seemed to me that in FF 14 you have much fewer skills and CDs and a lack of a talent tree so in Wow it seemed to me that you just have so much more options to play your class than in FF 14 and just looking over my skill tree in FF 14 seemed to me that just i spam the same 4 buttons the rest of tha game and i could see that getting dull and even boring pretty fast i think.
Did i somehow missed the point of FF 14 being âbetterâ than Wow here or havent i figured out the FF 14 skill system not at all yet?
Would love to get some opinions of some other folks here.
I tried ff 14, im a casual wower so just went in with the same attitude⌠I was overwhelmed, I just stumbled through stuff, never felt like I was doing anything meaningful. Gave up in the end, I think to be fair thats on me more than ff 14.
Different systems and until max level you really can not compare the 2 at all Mythic Sire compared to there toughest setting they are on par with each other .
Well, letâs be fair, WoW doesnât have talent trees either. It has something so completely pathetic that I am in favor of removing talents from WoW completely, too. Or giving us legitimate talent trees. What we have right now is awful.
As for FFXIV - it has a lot more going on in terms of world systems - the combat log is pretty good, it gives you a decent incentive to go out and just explore the world and kill specific things for completionist sake. It is also a good guiding path for leveling your other classes. Thereâs also the guildleves, which are basically like WoWâs world quests but better - you go, pick them from an NPC, then activate them and go do them.
There are also fates, which are world events that stay active until the players clear them. Itâs just one more thing to do out of many things.
But FFXIV has a ton of systems. Even while leveling you see A TON. So the players who are complaining about âSystemlandsâ will be overwhelmend. Shadowlands has like 4 systems. FFXIV has many more, just while youâre leveling.
I will argue that FF14 engame is trash compared to WOW
but FF14 is not famous for the BOSSES but for the story so i think thatâs why people love to play cause there is a lot of story going on
wow story is not that good and never was
Wouldnât say the games better, think itâs more the company behind it. Square do wayyyyyy more fan service and give the players what they want. You get a mega thread on there forum about a loved boss from FF7, you get it added into the game.
I donât even know what to say about blizzard any more. They used to create absolute master pieces, and huge franchises. Now they just ignore everything, force their content on players, and rather milk the players doing as little work as possible.
Iâm a huge FF fan for over 20 years, much prefer wows PvE though. But man do I have absolute 0 love for blizzard these days. And have a ton of it for square at the moment. I mean compare FF7 remake, an absolute master piece, something fans have wanted for 20 years. The game was literal perfection with not a single bug or update for 6 months. To WC3R which was an absolute disgrace, riddled with bugs and poor quality. Went down as a huge flop and loss for blizz.
If the gcd was not that slow, Iâd play FF. Not because Iâm half Japanese, just because I do enjoy more skill being shifted into executing classes rather than bosses. And I think most of ff mechanics should be faster.
This being said, wow would be better if it has less systems, a better way of telling stories and more complex classes, ie not just legion 4 buttons rotations and more than just building and spending resources.
As far as skills go, no you wonât be spamming the same 4 buttons, the rotations are mostly static - not a lot of procs, it uses a combo system instead, but can be as big as 15-20 skills with off gcd skills weaved in.
As far as endgame no, I wouldnât say itâs really better, at least to a wow player it would probably seem lacking due to the smaller scale. Raids are mostly âdanceâ fights - a lot of simple mechanics that are repeated again and again.
Iâd say that the biggest difference is that ff14 is rpg first mmo second, while itâs the opposite in WoW.
Are you a high end raider who seeks the thrill of clearing mythic 20 and getting cutting edge every season? Then no. Stick to wow.
Are you a more casual type of person with heroic raid clear being your highest pve level of achievement, while you really donât care about the super hard mythic level challenge and just want to have fun with pve? Then yes. FF14 is much better.
Why is it better?
apart from fundamental reasons such as their devs actually doing what players want vs our devs donât giving a damn about players, it comes down to the fact that wow has turned into a grindfest for gear in the past years. FF14 on the other hand, is like an mmo. You give it enough time and eventually youâll start realizing what you missed and didnât even know you missed in wow.
Combo system is awesome, in wow you have like 4-5 skills you use most of the time, there you have at least a dozen and you use all of them, also all fights are movement intense, so even izi lvl 60 dung can be quite fristrating, alsoo much more one shot mechanics even on low difficulty. People wonât kick you for fun and they donât leave at first wipe. So in terms of good community, tactics and combat system itâs way better. Since dps meters not appreciated in ff, wow tryhards wonât go there, cos game is about fun and pleasure.
I can say I enjoy how FF14 did raid encounters over WoW, I prefer WoWs combat system over FF14 though I prefer Wrath-MoP era combat systems the most(outside of MoP talent trees and the cata hindering hybrid talent trees etc.) Combat in FF starts off even slower with long GCDs and animation locks which I donât like very much.
I also enjoy raiding there without addons like DBM being super prevalent and required to raid.
Sometimes you shouldnât get exactly what you want. Itâs this whole âI want it all and I want it nowâ attitude of nowadays that leads to horribly entitled snowflakes.
Nothing is different than in the old days. They used to just âforce their contentâ on players too, but players loved it, because it was good and polished content. There was never a âmagical timeâ when Blizzard did exactly what players asked. No. They just made good games and people accepted that forced stuff, because it was good.
They (the devs) just need to find their groove again and itâll all be okay. Most players will be happy (most, because letâs face it; they will NEVER please everyone).
