healbot wont let me use “greater heal” on its selection, so i made a macro --> /cast Greater Heal, and used healbots options for selecting macros to bind it. (shift + left).
but most of the time when i use it, it heals me, not the player im hovering over in the healbot ui.
is this a bug or is there some way to make greater heal heal the target i mean to instead of me.
turn off warmode then no problem
not an option. i am talking about in battlegrounds.
also healbot issue related, just did arathi comp stomp, and 2-5 of my teammates were not showing. is healbot broke atm?
Out of curiosity, why are you using Healbot instead of the default UI combined with macros? What is it Healbot gives you that the default UI don’t?
Just curious because I started using the default UI with mouseover macros some years ago, and never looked back.
And if Healbot doesn’t let you heal by mouseover, I think you can just add an ordinary mouseover macro to bypass it;
#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover,help] [help] [target=player] Greater Heal
i’ll be honest. i dont have a clue what im doing. healers i only play as alts, and healbot made it simple for me in cata, wod and legion (when i was healing).
as tanking and dps dont need the quick target swaping that healing does, i just like having the healbot ui doing what it does.
is the default ui and macro thingy basically the same? hover over the toons “grid” and use a combo of mouse l, m, r, and shift, ctrl and alt?
No, I don’t think L, M and R work properly then. Healbot catches those events on a frame and binds it to a heal, normally you just end up targetting them or opening an option menu to interact with them I believe.
What you do now is hover over a frame and press a keyboard-binding where your macro is behind [hover] > [ctrl-2].
Yes, you hover over the frame, and it heals the target when you click your keybinds. Much less hassle, and imo a very informative frame. I’ve been healing since 2006. Used Xperl until Blizzard fixed their own raid and partyframes.
It’s less hassle, because you never have to worry about broken addons on patchday, and setting it up again whenever there there’s major changes to either spells or other things.
Here is an example from a BG I was in;
https:// imgur. com /Tsuzb0c
Range checker, debuffs and buffs showing. As well as health and lost health/health left. Remove the space in the link. I am not allowed to post links… sigh.
They do, so there’s no reason to use healbot for that purpose.
Mhm, interesting. Didn’t know that.
I think that is the problem many have. I think a lot of people aren’t aware of much the default UI has improved, and how well it works with mouseover macros. You save yourself a lot of hassle by using it. You can also adjust size and placement to your liking, colours, resource bar etc. I don’t remember all the settings, but this is my prefered setup. I like seeing resource bars and class clours e.g.
i will have a look into it, if it is macros. if it is keybinds, then that is too much hassle for me to remember tbh. if i could remember keybinds, i’d do them on my rogue and probably be a far better pvper than i am.
(that would be so nice) xD
Well that is true, haven’t used the Blizzard frames since uhm early TBC. I have been using Grid ever since for a cleaner layout. But I will recheck the regular Blizz frames :). Cheers for the reminder.
Ok, I might be a little lost now. We’ll see what Magiola says. I am just comenting based on how Healbot and VuhDuh worked when I tried them(WotLK), but now I got a little insecure if I actually understand what you mean.
You don’t have any keybinds? Or Mousebinds?
Either way I still recommend trying the default UI with the macro I posted earlier(just change spell name to what you need), but it might be that you need a slightly different macro if you’re seeking something else than I understood it as.
no i dont have keybinds. 
the only “mousebinds” i have are what i set up for healbot and are solely for healbot. eg. “left mouse click = heal, middle mouse click = renew, right mouse click = flash heal, shift+left mouse click = purify” etc etc.
i will see if what you say works, as at least this way i wont need to reprogram my healer every patch. and i have 3 priests, and 2 shamans means i can use one default setting for them and it would be less messy. i have the UI looking like your pic, but now i need to see if i can get the hover commands to work like it did in healbot.
and i didn’t start using healing toons till cata, so i dont know how current healbot differes from tbc/wotlk version
There might be a different macro that makes your mousekeys work like in Healbot. I just use keybinds rather than mousebinds atm, as I got a rather simple mouse atm.
You might have heard it before, but a good tip when it comes to keybinds, is that you bind similar spells to the same key on all characters. E.g. my interrupt is always on C on all my characters. My main AoE heal and AoE dps is always on F. My quick heal(Flash heal, Regrowth, and the shaman speed heal which I just forgot the name of) are always on Q. That way I can pick up characters I haven’t been logged on to in a long time and start using them by muscle memory, until I start remebering how the actual spell works, and get back into it quicker. I will always be clumsy at first, but because I have the basics bound by muscle memory, it won’t affect me while doing average content.
Mouseover for healing also help you not having to worry about the task of targeting. If I log a new character, and forget to set up my mouseover macros before I enter a dungeon, I will struggle more as I will have one more step to go through before the heal goes off; Instead of “Hover over - Click keybind”, I get “Hover Over - Target - Click keybind”. More work, as in more milliseconds wasted to thought/process within the brain. Mouseover healing removes that middle step, and gives you quicker reactions.
Another point when trying to learn keybinds (I was a clicker until Blizzard introduced haste reducing GCD’s with WotLK, when the GCD’s was never shorter than 1,5 seconds for most spells, you could freely click without getting gimped. That is not possible anymore.) , is that you need to feel your way through it. Check where your hand lies comfortably on the keyboard, and place spells based on how your hand responds in the situation where you need said spell(e.g. never place a panic bottom, or key you need to respond with quickly, in a position where it feels clunky to move your hand. Your most important and reacttive spells should always be placed about where your hand is resting on the keyboard.
Last thing. I never use combo keybinds, because I can’t deal with that personally. I use simple binds, 1 key and spell goes off. I never use e.g. Ctrl+1 or Alt+1. Ctrl and Alt combos can go die in a fire for all I care. I either press 1 alone, or I won’t press anything. The moment I start attempting Ctrl+1, I will most likely push 1+Ctrl instead, and nothing happens(I am one of those people who often type “teh” instead of “the”" because my brain like to turn things around for some reason…
My keyboard also have all the F keys(F1, F2, F3 and so on) without space above the number keys, meaning I can freely use the F keys for binds instead of Ctrl and Alt combos. That gives room for plenty of binds even though I can’t use combo binds.
Good luck though. If you swap a lot, I’d really recommend giving the a little extra effort into making the default UI work. In the long run it saves you a lot of hassle.
I’ve never actually used a healing related addon before, besides grid back in the day before Blizzard default raid frames were updated.
What does healbot actually do? whenever I hear it, it feels like some bot that is used to help someone heal.
I don’t know, how to solve your problem, but if you can’t solve it, you can try using Vuhdo, I am using it and it is a great add on
It is pretty similar to healbot, has a lot of options (some might say it is complicated) but I have been healing with VuhDo for a long time now, and once you got it adjusted it works great
Its basically just frames and u can bind spells to your mouse, like left click for healing wave, right click for healing surge over the frames. I guess it works the same way as mouse over macros but u bind the spells to your mouse instead.
Just use VuhDo tbh ![:slightly_smiling_face:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slightly_smiling_face.png?v=6" ":slightly_smiling_face:")
Healbot is pretty outdated I think.
You want to get addon Clique.
It’s easy to set up (you open your spellbook, click little Clique icon - it will appear on right side of your spellbook - to enter binding mode, you click spell in the spellbook with combination you want it to be). So if you want Heal to be left mouse button+alt, you open spellbook, open clique binding mode and click “Heal” with left mouse button+alt. And it saves your bind. Etc.
It will then work like healbot, just like you are used to.