Is Keystone Master really supposed to be that easy?

You will need to have .1% top score to earn a meaningful achievement from m+. all the others(including all +20) portals will be earned by everyone that is doing m+ more or less regularly by the end of the season. only the .1% achievement has some actual value

This is what I find odd. You said it yourself: PvE is easy once you understand the one or two mechanics each NPCs can do.

In PvP however, you need constant awareness of your surroundings, and of what the other 5 people are doing, at any time. It varies constantly, there’s always something to do, and something you can do better.
How can that be more boring than a scripted encounter with 2 mechanics?

In PvP, you also use more spells, because all of your toolkit is useful at some point.
This means that spells that are “niche” and near useless in PvE can become game changers in PvP, which is great fun.
Ring of Peace is useless against dungeon bosses since they’re immune to it, but you’ll use it every game in PvP.
As a warlock, you’ll use your portal every game.

Using only 50% of my spellbook is something else that bores me to death with PvE.

Just because something is easy doesn’t make it boring. It’s a matter of personal taste and mine isn’t in PvP. Sure I might find PvP to be more challenging to me than PvE, because I know next to nothing on how to play in a PvP setting but the whole aspect of the mode is unappealing, annoying and boring to me, I just do not find anything interesting in it.

Ahm no you don’t. It goes 2 ways, take a priests mind soothe for example ( and this is off the top of my head, not sure if there is actually a PvP talent that makes the spell do something else in PvP), it reduces the aggro range of mobs, why would you use something like that in PvP.

Again, I have no idea about paladins or whatever your main is but as a warlock I am using everything available, from curses to teleports to fears to pet heals etc. And I can give you a counter example in BfA I had to do arenas because of my BiS essence, the only thing I did was havoc 2 people and spam Chaos bolt, that and the occasional interrupt/fear, that strategy got me to 1800 rating, nothing to brag about I know but for someone who does not engage in this sort of things I would say it’s a lot.

Then don’t play that!

Well, only 1 run logged, but i see you let the others carry you with doing the majority of the mechanics, i guess it truly is even easier that way :slight_smile:

How did you only manage to do 8 explosives in your AA… were you just asleep and went, meh, mechanics, other people can do that?

You did no dmg overall either…

Seems clear, you did low lvl m+ barely did any mechanics or dmg, and now you try to lecture people on how boring and easy it is…

For reference, really good MW does 28k overall dmg, while doing 80+ explosives in that dungeon…

I too would say that M+ is super easy at the key levels you did. Same as PvP at lower rating is just zerg one person without knowing anything.

Any mode in this game is easy if you do it at a low level.

Who cares about dungeon bosses? RoP has super high value on trash packs, which is the majority of m+.

Then get better and use all of it during trash and bosses combined. Just cause you don’t know where to use stuff doesn’t mean it’s useless.

I know you are the biggest troll on the forums but really i X for doubt this .

The sad thing here is that it’s become obvious that Slappy just got carried through the content. His gear helped, but tactically he just left everyone else to do all the hard work.

I’d like to see him getting +20 keys.

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Nah, he might legit have been falling asleep, he did no mechanics or dmg, was super boosted…

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I think that is the case really. where he realised it or not.

Doubt he’ll realize, he seems like one of those people who will keep insisting he’s awesome and we should all worship him…

Ah well…

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That’s exactly what he is. But he does keep insisting on reminding us on a daily basis.

Indeed, while hiding behind an alt…

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To be fair to him, he did drop his Mains profile in this thread… nothing noteworthy to brag about though.

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True, it did catch me by surprise that he linked it…
It’s just my default position i guess if you’re sitting on an alt, you dont wanna risk other people judging you, which means you’re not that confident in what you’re saying.

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It’s easy now cause 90% of the players got their gear and 4 piece sets.

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Yeh, this is the point of the season most players are just gearing up alts through that content.

The fun of the season is when you’re pushing through it for the first time.

But then that does beg to ask the question, why is it designed to allow people to wait until later in the season to complete it?

Odd statement to make. If I didn’t do mechanics, the group would wipe.
The only thing keeping me half awake in this snoozefest is that standing in a swirly thing even just one second deletes you instantly.
At the end of the day, I’m a healer. My job is to keep people alive. I did just that, successfully, and completed the content with randos from the LFG.
Easy.

This one is also odd, for a couple of reasons.

Anybody who visits these forums regularly enough to know who I am also knows who my main is, precisely because I don’t hide. I link it when asked, just like I did earlier in this thread.

And even if I did want to hide, websites like check-pvp allow you to see every single one of my alts: https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Kazzak/Rompuche

Why would you accuse me of “trying to hide behind an alt” when 1) I’m not trying 2) It’s impossible?

The 4 piece for Mistweaver is trash, I won’t get it.

Yes and its likely there are more players eho never have done a m+ then there is that are.

So overall ur looking at a much smaller number.

No, your job is to do as much dmg as possible, while keeping the group alive and maximise the groups ability to do dmg such as doing explosives.

Just like it’s a dps job to do as much dmg as possible, while reducing the amount of dmg they and the group takes by doing interrupts and controlling the mobs…

Taking unncessary dmg means healer has to heal, if healer has to heal he is not doing dmg, not doing dmg makes the key take longer.

You comment is as assinine as it would be me saying that my job in pvp as a boomie in S1 SL was stand in middle and just pve people down… the only reason that worked, was because it was extremly low CR vs low CR people.

Actually i only had to use 4 abilities, my 2 dots+CA and convoke, imagine if on that very limited experience i started proclaiming pvp is utterly braindead…

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