Is MoP the end?

Hey.

I really thought it would end with WOTLK…

But it seems we are already almost done with cata.

Will classic really go through all expansions?

Would just feel weird to call BFA or shadowlands ”Classic”

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I belive microBlizz would like to keep Classic 2019 till Legion Classic in 2028-2029 and Anniversary 2024 till Wrath in 2027-2028. Looking at the population numbers in Cataclysm, MoP Classic must to be the last one successful with shadow of WoD looming in it’s end and glimpse shine of Legion far far away, so Blizz decided to make sure we would get Wrath anniversary as backup in the darkest times to compensate for WoD Classic fails as they wouldn’t add anything cut from original anyway.

The main issue with WoD is the complete lack of content, I think they could run it at a short cadence of 6-8 months and it’d be quite successful.

Legion and beyond introduces a lot of hamster wheel systems that plague retail to this day so I’m not sure the classic audience will go for it.

Ideally they would offer a modified version of those games with a more traditional focus and without the borrowed power, grindy systems or M+ but I doubt Blizzard will go to that level of effort.

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The “classic” part simply stands for rerelease so they are free to do it up to current retail expansion. As someone who only started at the end of Shadowlands I am looking forward to play all of the past expansion, Sl classic and Dragonflight classic gonna be cool.

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I can definitely see Blizzard going forwards with re-releases of previous expansions, WoD, Legion, BfA etc.

I believe MoP will be the end of the Classic series for me, though. I can’t see myself playing WoD again. Except for some decent zones, and good soundtrack (like always in WoW), I didn’t like much of its content. And I’m not really interested in the expansions to come afterwards either.

But I don’t know what I’m gonna switch to either, tbh. I have put a lot of time and effort into my Classic account, and currently I don’t really feel like starting over completely fresh with no resources, without a clear main, different geared alts at max level (I have all classes at max level, and have had that every expansion since 2019 classic) etc. I guess I eventually will have to make a decision, only time will tell what’s it gonna be though.

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I would like them to end it with MoP because after MoP the only good expansion in Legion, but I think they will continue indefinitely.

I don’t want artifact power grind or complete RnG which legendary you get tho…

Please at least make some #Minorchanges

Legion was a disaster, come on man…

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Compared to contentless WoD bleeding from thousand content cuts (including removed Battle for Shatrath City raid tier, 2 playable zones and open world activities) and BfA that lost all sence of direction, making raw unfinished class rework in the start, switchng between borrowed power systems every patch only to produce most redicilously unbalanced one, where 75%+ of your damage was completly RNG? The Legion with some flaws was perfect compared to both.

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If you think Legion sucked that’s fine. Why do you not like Legion?

I mean…

There was a lot of good and a lot of Bad.

The legendaries being 100% RnG was bad.

I got the defensive cloak and the other person in my guild got the BiS legendary.

So i got people annoyed with me since i fid lower dmg than them.

(+) The AP grind in maw of souls was not very enjoyable.

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I hope MoP isn’t the end. I think WoD classic could be fun, the problem with WoD was content draught + too long phases.

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Mythic+, legendary stuff, professions, Mythic+, DH, my classes got destroyed, Mythic+ and that annoying thing that replaced challenge modes

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No, the problem was cut out raid tier of Battle for the city of Shattrath, isolation of players in their garrisons, no faction capitals (Alliance one ment to be in what has become a Black Temple in our timeline.) And last but not least very little amount of outside world content after leveling. There is only one scenario for WoD Classic to be good and that is adding this content back.

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As a WOD lover (including someone, who continues leveling in WOD for retail alts even now), I’d definitely welcome WOD as an expansion post MOP. And judging by the fact I loved Cata and still play it now, I presume I’d love WOD-Legion experience too.

It’s not the expansions that are bad in my opinion. Cata, MOP, WOD and Legion had its good moments. It was the content gaps that were horrible, and in the pre-classic age (that’s it, before Classic got released in 2019), you had nothing else to do in WoW than to play old stuff.

The MOP-WOD gap was especially painful - it lasted whole 14 months! And then WOD had only one major patch and a large gap until Legion was released. The gap between Cata and MOP was also godawful, endless grinding of Dragon Soul and the three dungeons… which is why they had that Annual Pass and beta as an early access.

Now, however, it’s different. We’ll have a shorter gap between Cata’s Dragon Soul and MOP, and a shorter life for WOD would be great. Meanwhile, the timeline between MOP patches is probably going to be increased - if you remember, Blizzard released all MOP patches within a short timeframe and this turned out to be a huge mistake.

The last patch of MoP went on forever, indeed.

And even though WoD had some good content, mainly zones and dungeons for me, I still think garrisons and that follower mission board did harm to the game. Player housing can in theory be interesting, but the garrison was terribly executed. And I never wrapped my head around the follower mission thing. Tried to get myself to like/accept it, but it ended up with me just ignoring it.

I also have mixed feelings about the ability pruning MoP → WoD. I understand something had to be done, MoP was a bit excessive at times (I remember having like 50-60 binds on most characters). But going from that to WoD made it feel a bit… bland? Perhaps it was mostly noticeable in PvP, dunno. I was more into PvP at the time since my previous raiding guild disbanded sometime during MoP.

This I 100% agree with though. MoP has a lot of amazing content, and I don’t see any point in rushing it, especially since we now know what’s coming afterwards.

I’m pretty sure some classes felt the prune far more than others. I basically only played blood at the end of MoP and through WoD and barely noticed anything, while logging onto my ele shaman alt felt like torture

Probably. I can’t remember in detail how much the classes got affected. But I remember playing druid, mage, shaman a lot in particular and felt it.

I remember enjoying some specs, though. Double rejuvs for resto was interesting, which I believe was introduced in WoD. Aswell as the new cat form for feral, where you were more of a humanoid (?) and could cast certain spells in cat form. So it was not ALL doom and gloom.

But I also remember the shaman being totally butchered compared to MoP, even though I mainly played enhancement (which was one of my favourite specs in MoP).

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There’s only one drawback to more reasonable releases of expansions…

We get MOP in 2025, probably WOD in 2026 and Legion in 2027. Then we’ll have BFA in 2028, so guess what comes next within a four-year period…

Mop won’t be rushed, it has plenty of content in it. So WoD would be only around 2027, just in time for Anniversary realms to enter WotLK anniversary. Maybe we would get Legion in 2028.