Still sounds like you’re not having the fun you crave with your guild.
There are guilds that can clear SWP that will also help you with 5 mans.
Edit: I will admit though, that your guild doesn’t sound horrible. Just… not optimal for you.
Edit:2 Sorry, I’m a little busy.
If you were on our server I would love to invite you to join us for a bit. Not into the guild, but to just play with us. For we do help each other out. You could just ask me if I can tank a dungeon for you and I probably will, if I like you enough. Sure, here I would do it at first, just to make a point. But that doesn’t mean I utterly dislike you and wouldn’t play with you, if you are proving to be a helpful or nice player to us too.
Bob asks the combat rogue, Richard (he should have a name too), if he needs the Bladefist. Richard says that he has no interest in that item since he’s sword spec and has two decent swords. He just wants to do Shattered Halls for a quest.
Bob tells the group and Richard is invited. Richard is indeed a cool and funny person and at the end of it all, Bob adds Richard to his friend list. Bob also tells his guild about this funny rogue. Over the next few weeks other guild members have also had the pleasure to play with Richard and they share Bob’s opinion. Richard is then invited to the guild.
Too good an ending? Well, that’s kind of how it was for me. I mained a rogue throughout TBCC, it’s my only max-levelled character. I found my guild through repeated encounters with people I enjoyed playing with. I didn’t have to fill in some application.
Look, it’s not like my guild never does any dungeons. I just play at weird hours. Outside of two raid nights that I schedule ahead of time, I mostly have time to play between 8 and 12 am server time when my kids are in school/KG and I have few translation projects to work on. During “prime time” I’m ferrying them from activities, making dinner, spending time with family or working because many projects from US come in evenings. When I rarely do get to play between say 5 and 10 pm, I often make guild groups, partial or even full. Why, some 15-20 of my ssh runs were done with guildie pala alt who was also after the trinket. You can imagine what a decent pala and BT geared mage on voice does to shh normal. It was orc genocide. One of our main tanks, seeing me struggle in arca for the other recipe week after week even offeres to get together a group of guildies with him at the helm that would run me through on normal only up to the eredar deathbringer(s) until I get it, which I politely declined because of time constreints and also because that would indebt me to them waaaay too much.
Our guild works just fine, thank you very much. I returned to Classic to kill raid bosses, and my guild provides that without any GDKP insanity. Just good old fashioned raiding with friends who also know how to push buttons. And I don’t worry about myself with RDF, if I need a dungeon, I get it done, with guild or leading randoms. My Savagery and Agi on 2H and Spellstrike recipes and 12 Agi on boots and Sta on Bracer speak for themselves, and trust me, neither of them dropped in first 10 runs.
It’s for the old world dungeons, and the disadvantaged dps who aren’t a raid geared mage who knows the dungeons like the back of his hand. And for those who just don’t have the dogged determination to spam LF1M Tank for an hour while replacing dps or stare at bulletin board for Elune knows how long with a role-class-gear reply ready in buffer to Ctrl-V at the first group offer. For those people who finally deserve a break with RDF.
I recently got into that very position. I did Stockades, blackfathom deeps and Razorfen kraul all in a single day.
The trick is to not just spam a macro.
First of all “LF1M Tank” is the most basic macro there is. That’s like writing in a job application “I’m looking for a job.” and that’s it. You’re not standing out.
If you manage to make it more interesting, people might join your group simply because it sounds like fun to just play with you. I can tell you, it happens a lot, if you do it right. It might also be fun to you, making the whole thing less tedious.
Another thing you can and should do, when looking for a group, is not just spamming a macro but using /who, entering the level range of the dungeon you wish to play and then just whispering people directly, asking them to join your group. This is part of the soical aspect I’m talking about. It’s normal to approach each other directly, and we should keep it normal. With RDF this wouldn’t be normal anymore.
But this post is not just meant as a reply to you. The advice on forming groups is meant to help everyone who is struggling finding groups.
And never forget to put people on your Friends list to ask them if they want to join you again, when you’re trying to do another dungeon run.
Personally, when I’m on my paladin main, last thing I want is to get spammed with whispers from people wanting me to tank a dungeon for them. It just feels like those annoying calls from marketing, there’s really nothing social about them, it’s just spam. If I want something, I’ll ask for it - by putting myself on a damn queue or list or checking one in case people are looking for a tank etc.
I dunno, maybe it feels normal to you, but whispering people out of the blue if they want to do a dungeon seems like a height of bad manners. It’s like cold-calling people with an offer of car insurance or dental services. I only ever got a whisper couple of times in Classic, by a warrior tank offering Strat living runs with all orbs reserved to him. I felt dirty and violated after just reading the message.
Maybe I am really just anti social, but I’d rather literally quit the game than whisper people at random if they want to join my dungeon run. It sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it.
Yeah, I’d also reply “thanks but I’m busy” or “sorry, don’t need that one” because I’m a social human being conditioned to live in a society, but inside I’d be raging with a mix of disgust and annoyance, wishing painful skin conditions to befall you for daring to whisper me out of the blue. I’d never do that to other human, just on the off-chance the’d feel the way I do about it.
While I get that you are comparing these two things, I think the comparison doesn’t quite fit.
With the car insurance calls it’s out of the blue and uncalled for.
But by logging into the game there is already a very good reason to believe you might interested in doing some activities the game offers.
I find it closer to a server asking you if everything is alright at your table or if you need something, rather than a completely uncalled phone call about something without any indicator you might be interested in it.
I’d like to ask you to try. Responses I got so far were almost exclusively positive. There actually was never a negative response only no reply at all, which could just mean that the person was AFK. Not getting a reply at all is also a rather rare occurence.
is something I can agree with, as a tank that joins more groups for free than most of us apparently do, I get those whispers fairly often and if its not someone I actually have some sort of relation with, like maybe a dozen or so healers and half a dozen or so DPS that are outside my guild I tend to just say “sorry im busy maybe next time” to be nice to them but once in a blue moon I do come to those. But when 1 of the people I have some sort of relationship with outside my guild whispers like that I do tend to come unless I have something that is more important to do.
And you like that? It’s like they are begging for a tip! If I wanted something I’d beckon you over, you insufferable prick. That’s what I feel. I tell them “no, all is fine”. But that’s what I think.
I think I might have found a fellow high functioning autistic person (or maybe it might be actually completely normal to hate servers asking if everything is alright)
Yeah if I were born 20 years later they’d probably put me somewhere “on the spectrum”. My wife always calls me an autist as a joke, but sometimes it feels like she’s only half-joking
A kindered soul I do this as well. Although I’ve called it a “filter” – it’s not really that I want to gather more attention, but rather the “right” attention.
https://imgur.com/3ORbHRp
People who have a “rush”-mentality probably won’t even bother to read the lower message on that image, and that is absolutely fine because I don’t want to play with such people. I want to play with people who are sociable. Giving your recruitment-messages some character is a great way to filter for such individuals.
But of course, at the end game I didn’t make as colourful messages. Sometimes I would just spell things out rather than abbreviate it; “Looking for two more damage dealers for Heroic Sethekk Halls!” followed by whatever other information may be of relevance, such as “Summons available!”, “We got mage snacks!”, or “It’s the daily Heroic!” – anything to make it appear less soulless.
I did the same when I searched for Mythic Groups in retail. Maybe that’s how I managed to avoid all the toxic gatekeeping people talk about.
Yupp. pserver is where I’ll be headed when wotlk launches. Unless Blizz actually would come out and say “we’ll add RDF in phase x”, which I highly doubt at this point.
No idea where you got that from, but Blizzard isn’t going to do anything at all to mitigate GDKP’s. They have in fact said straight out that GDKP’s are fine. On top of that, their own employees runs GDKP’s.
Most of your replies is just full on blowing hot air so I’m not gonna bother with you any more then this one thing you got all wrong.
Strange. Chats are filled with messages of the type like “Geared tank LFM SHH HC, figurine reserved, unwanted reserved. No tank fee, have at least full T5.”
Now there’s your social community these days.
At this point though I’m just as sick and tired of this pointless thread as I am trying to get dungeon groups together in tbcc, so I will likely not either read nor respond here anymore.
You are SO wrong. This guy describes you what social means in a game. And you say he is delusional… Most of my friends in game are randoms we had fun in a run or a quest etc.
I do this as well. Although I’ve called it a “filter” – it’s not really that I want to gather more attention, but rather the “right” attention.