Thought about it. She is among the better characters of the expansion and not part of the Baine friendship club yet. She has alot of potential and introduced the horde to the zandalari. Do you believe shadow’s rising give her the push she needs to become the face of the horde now that warchief was dismantled?
Hell no. The Zandalari have shown themselves to be nothing but incompetent throughout their existence in WoW. In an ideal world, she’ll be joining her Father in that Troll afterlife. For good.
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We lost 4 big characters in a row. Nathanos, Sylvanas, Gallywix and Saurfang. The zandalari offer the chance of filling up our numbers again.
What happened with Gallywix?I didn’t know he is missing.You surprised me.
He gets kicked out of the horde and is replaced with Gazlowe as trade prince of the bilgewater cartell.
No, not really
She not really “love” the Horde and all what represented, serving under a Warchief, using the Zandalari and all; she saw more potential to help her in the Horde than in any other nation (well the pool was very, very limited she could choose from to begin with) and turned to them for a little mutual benefical assistance
But be the part of if?
Remeber how she gave a finger to Sylvanas?
Equal… but make no mistake!
She not lowered herself down to the Horde, she allowed the Horde to consider themselves equal to the mighty Zandalari Empire!
And while she had a friendly relationship with Kiro and the Vulpera, the Tortolans and Rokhan and valued the help of the Speeker of da horde… the others? Not that much.
Actually she had a very friendly relationship during the quest or idle chating with Baine, shared his views about what honorable and noble and understod what he done and why
So safe to consider her part of the Baine club
But as a Horde member or face of the Horde?
Not a chance
She is a Zandalari and Zandalar will be always what is improtant to her
Zandala’ forava!!!
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My bet is that by the end of the novel she will be a happy little part of the “Baine friendship club”. The excerpt of the novel gave us her starting point as a reluctant Horde ally, blaming the Horde for things that went wrong. It seems more than likely that ther arc will be to move beyond that and learn to be part of her new “family”.
I hope not. This Baine lead horde is cancer for our community.
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Thral, Voljin, Lothemar, Thalisra, Talanji, Bane aren’t a bad team. For Talanji, if they keep building her up, yes she could be the face of the Horde but that can happen to others in the team.
I think Horde players are too hash on Bane. If he says “It’s raining today” there will be posts about how spinless he is and how he is afraid to get wet .
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The problem Baine has is that his entire character is build around this friendship with the alliance. He doesen’t have other characterization out of that. Thats why it feels like he has no real connection to the horde.
She is the future of Zandalar, not the Horde. And ffs stop with those bait topics.
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It’s not bait. I’m serious.
Then you should know that Zandalari aren’t Horde, they’re allied to it, but it was Talanji’s decision to keep both factions separated. She won’t meddle with Horde stuff and vice vera she doesn’t want for Horde to meddle with her stuff.
That’s not totally false, but not really true, either. Sure, his friendship with Anduin is an important part of his character. But so is his decision to sit back and watch when Garrosh had just killed his father, or his decision to act against Sylvanas only when she practically dragged him to a torture sight. Those are not things that relate to the Alliance, they are signs of his character.
Baine is slow to act, and if he does it’s mostly half-arsed. He has moral principles, but is willing to compromise them, as long as he can. He can soothe his conscience by little acts. He doesn’t have to stand against Garrosh, nor does he have to deny him his troops, it’s enough for him to warn Jaina that he is coming. He can wage a war for Sylvanas and hear about crimes that happened in his abscence, he can stand to leave behind the guy he trusted to keep Sylvanas in check… but he can’t stand Sylvanas dangling a torture victim directly in front of him, and acts against that specifically. Something she might actually have overlooked, if she cared about keeping the Horde united.
It’s not that Baine lacks character, really. It’s just that he isn’t exactly impressive as a leader character. His strengths certainly are not at the points where hard decisions have to be made.
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Given the lack of faction frictions, noteworthy warmongering, or overall internal dissent in the previewed SL info…this will change pretty fast.
And my money is on the novel tackling said transition.
In all, no, i doubt Talanji is the “future of the Horde” in the sense you imply it, because her current stance reeks of the sort of transitory state of mind that certain writers love to “develop” into the usual Anduin/Baine-loving mindset.
There is quite an extensive list of precedents that showcase such.
Well, that was the exact same situation Forsaken and BEs had when they were introduced, and time has shown how little did it matter in the end regarding how they are seen or how they stand in the political landscape.
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I hope not. Friction is exactly what we need otherwise the Horde is once more just as irrelevant as it was in classic while Alliance got all the spotlight whenever the bbeg plot happens.
It shows how out of touch with the community they are.
Are they, though? I mean, there is a crowd behind people like Taliesin&Evitel, and story forums are hardly representative. I certainly think Blizz’s authors have their skill limitations, so I’m not surprised they fail at the difficult tasks they set themselves. But I’m not sure they aren’t trying to do what a plurality of players want.
I want actual cool character to represent the Horde. And with the exception of Thrall and maybe Lor’themar they are all C and B tier of characters. Especially Baine.
That is not the case with belves, they needed recommendation and the quest ended with them pledging their services to the Warchief. Same goes with Forsaken they were acting on their own but Sylvanas still had authority of Warchief above her.
So I disagree.
And the newest book is even enforcing that Zandalari politics =/= Horde politics.
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Blizzard seemed rather bent on ending any Horde “friction” when they villainised or killed those characters that could’ve posed a realistic “threat” to Anduins pacifist mindset, and started parading warmongers in chains across Orgrimmar, while highlighting Baine’s mindset with dialogue bits across the city.
In both cases their support towards the Horde was shown as an allegiance of convenience.
Something the Forsaken knew all to well during Classic when their intro outright stated their independent stance that had them “using” the Horde for their own agenda, as well as it happened with BEs, which also seemed rather comfortable with not supporting the Horde in Northrend, and needing Sylvanas to pull them by the sleeve.
Talanji won’t be the first, or last, to think her kingdom independent after already having the sort of relation she has had with the faction.
And speaking meta…yeah, the Zandalari will be treated as any other Horde faction.