Is the wow community that toxic?

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This thread is just for me to vent out my frustrations and to share my experience as a new player.

So, I just started playing a few weeks ago with my boyfriend because he really wanted to introduce me to the game and I myself, remembered enjoying the pandaria update and thought it would be a cool game to play together. So I made myself a worgen priest because I usually enjoy playing support.

Now that I have gotten to level 70 and arrived to Valdraken, plus played a couple of mythic+ runs, I have to say the people I encounter are horrible and make me want to stop playing all together. Which incredibly saddens me because I want to keep playing with my partner since he enjoys the game so much.

People never ever explain the mechanics of the dungeon nor interact with each other and they just rush forward, always leaving me behind since I cant go as fast as them and it has been already been 2 times that I have been voted to be kicked out for not healing enough during dungeons / low level mythic+. And the first time the vote actually went through and got ejected from the party, leaving me feeling worthless and actually crying for having invested so much time and attention to this game so far.

I worry that I will never feel comfortable doing my healing rotations while also having to pay attention to the enemy mechanics, keep failing and keep feeling like I suck at this game.

I also worry that the community will always be like this because the game is designed to encourage this elitist kind of behaviour.

And lastly I worry that the guild I am in will welcome me with fake kindness and never help me improve and want to kick me out asap.

It is truly a shame, because I have found myself enjoying the Dragonflight content a lot, riding around a dragon has been a lot of fun and the quirky, funny quests have actually made laugh out loud.

Anyone else has been through the same and if so, does it get better? Thank you for reading and wishing you a great day.

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It wont get better until you get better. Avoid strangers and play with your real life friends until you get better. It wont happen in 1 hour or 2 days. You need aprox 6 to 8 months to get ready to interract with strangers.

WoW has a terrible and selfish community and this is not your fault. Stop taking everything and everyone so serious, be selfish and try to improve. WoW is a war against other players, not against NPCs. If you are very emotional or something else, just quit because it doesn’t worths.

Remember you will be always alone even if you will be a good player one day. Be carefull who you trust. Avoid communication with strangers.

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Yes giga true

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Well since you mentioned m+ even at lower levels. People are starting to expect at least some basic 1-2-3 there. I can agree to a point cause its the end-game now. Its like going to a nascar race as a driver and don’t know which pedal is the gas and which is the brake…then acting surprised pikachu face when people get annoyed by it.

You need to show initiative yourself. No guild will be your 24/7 couches. They can support and help with tips but ultimately you need to read up guides, tactics and etc instead doing nothing and expecting the guild to prepare a “presentation&lecture on how to play a class” for you.

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M+ isn’t meant for learning tactics, you need to do that beforehand. Plus expecting others to teach you mechanics is kind of entitled unless you pay them.

…What?

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It isnt but mostly ppl are doing that xD if you pay them its gonna be boost :stuck_out_tongue:

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Soo…does that mean that your boyfriend is kind of a veteran at the game? Also, you having started a few weeks ago might mean that you just need more time to get adjusted to things. This is a massive game we’re talking about.

About the first part - don’t expect people to do that. Try to get help from your boyfriend or learning by yourself. I hope it doesn’t sound rude but strangers are not obligated to help you.

Them rushing? Yeah, that absolutely sucks and i’ll never not hate it.

That…absolutely sucks. And I feel you. Is there anyone else that you know of that plays the game? Or does your boyfriend know anyone? People can be nasty sometimes, they forget that there’s a person behind that healer they’re taking it out on. Generally people can be nice but these rare encounters are enough to ruin your day and I don’t blame you for feeling that way.

How new are you to games overall? Maybe what you need is a safe space to learn. Lower difficulty(after all, mythic+ is actually endgame), with friends(any type of content that you do would just feel better if you have a bunch of friends along), or different content like the elemental invasions that while not exactly challenging will help you get used to your abilities.

That depends on the type of people you find. There are genuinely nice people who’d be more than happy to let you take your time and/or help you. But you can’t rely on others. You really just have to give it time and give it your all to learn. All others can do is give you pointers. Practice, muscle memory, etc, you name it all come over time.

Mhm, I totally did. God I sucked so much as a newbie, but, well, getting better takes time. A lot of time in fact, at times you’ll want to give up and I totally wouldn’t blame you if you do. It’s really up to you if you want to put yourself through something that isn’t a pleasure.

Have you talked with your boyfriend about it? Shared how you felt? Is he a better player?
Also, again, it really depends on you actually taking initiative to learn. I’d even recommend you to just check a guide, something to just help you push through a point where you don’t know how to improve.
It’s also important to make a proper build as talents can change quite a bit in your performance.

A returner, I suppose. That probably doesn’t mean they were super experienced and Mists was honestly really long ago

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Keep in mind you are engaging in the hardest possible content in the game, or one of them at least. You will find nice and kind people in the game, but not necessarily in mythic + runs. Not saying all people doing those are awful buuut… it is a game mode that promotes toxicity and elitism in some ways. Also, finding a guild to play with is a good idea. People are less likely to be toxic around people they know. Like you could do a mythic run with your guild and maybe someone messes up and you all just laugh it off. Now imagine you do it with 4 strangers you’ve never met before. When someone messes up there it’s a different situation.

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The problem here is that M+ is on a Timer, so there isn’t really any time to explain Tactics and routes. The group tends to expect you know know a little bit about the dungeon in advance, whether it be from watching a 5 minute video on YouTube before hand, reading the Adventure Guide for tactics, or even just running it on Normal a few times.

If this is your first time playing WoW, I would probably suggest it might be best to skip the first part of the season in M+ and get used to playing the game, the controls, your character etc etc… and maybe dabble in some lower keys when everyone has a good understanding of how the dungeon work.

Oh I just got to the part where you said you’re playing Healer. This is not a fun season (or week) to be playing healer. There are a few encounters designed to be Healer checks, i.e. how good is your healer.

If you’re wanting to get used to your rotations etc, maybe join a casual raiding guild and work your way through the raids, that way you’ll get used to all your spells. etc.

TL:DR - Why do new people always want to get involved in the hard stuff?

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Nicely spotted.

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Thank you for your reply. I will respond to some of the points below.

Very true, I believe maybe I tried leveling up too fast to be able to catch up with him and now I feel overwhelmed.

You are right, I should get some guides before doing any specific content. I think FF14 might have spoiled me since people there would always ask people if they knew the boss mechanic beforehand. Watching and reading guides on how to play priest might not be enough.

I really needed to hear this. Gotta keep positive, things will get better, but also I need to ask him to take it slower and let me experience the game slowly first.

My bad, I can only recall playing as a panda for a short while during a free promotion, being unable to get off the panda island. But that was fun.

Thank you everyone for the responses and sorry for the rant ^^; I just needed to let off some steam, realize I gotta read some more guides and take things slow.

Best wishes!

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Man I got no clue how new players get into wow! So if you’re a new player and you’re already playing some low keys you must be doing something right.

I’ve been around since vanilla, I guess I’m an ok player, I get to raid heroic and mythic, and do some keys, mostly around +15.

I still feel like I need things explained to me sometimes. Maybe I’m getting old and just can’t be bothered to always be up to date with everything.

The thing with wow is you don’t “get good” by only playing the game. You got to go out there, read class guides, dungeon guides, raid tactics, clever ways to macro things, how to min max different aspects of your gameplay, run sims, optimise your UI with addons and Weak Auras etc etc… It’s actually kind of ridiculous thinking about it. Most other video games you just get to play them and you progressively get the hang of them.

Here’s a brief version of what I’ve learned through the years which will hopefully help you…

  • The game teaches you nothing, if you really want to progress, get out of your way to learn things by using other resources such as wowhead, certain youtube channels (I fined Bellular and Preach handy) class discords.
  • Assume the majority of the players are absolutely terrible people, that will make the smallest mistake sound like you’re basically a psychopath who kills puppies. Try not to let it get to you.
  • You might need to try more than one guild. Look for the ones that use forums, guilds of wow and seem to take pride in their community as oppose to their achievements. I was in a mythic raiding guild before this one, turns out they were a**holes. This one also raids mythic but everyone is lovely. You’ll know when you find the right one, and the game will become instantly 100s of times better.

Hope this helps bud, wow can be a great place, but it takes time!

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Ello mon,

Hehehehehehe

You be careful mon.

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Very true, we did do the normal dungeon run first and once succesfully completed, tried some low level mythic variants, still, my discipline priest was very hard to keep track of and felt overwhelmed, since switching to holy priest, the dungeons have gone better, but I still gotta learn the mechanics for some of the dungeons I still havent tried behorehand.

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You don’t have to look guides up for everything you do, but even looking the most basic of things up will help you get better. Take your time, don’t overwhelm yourself. Game won’t go anywhere.

Also, about your ff point: the thing about ff is, people are scared of being reported. Not everyone is nice and ones that don’t want to deal with someone who’s doing bad aren’t able to do much about it more than talk stuff about them in a platform like discord. I remember an ex fc mate just complaining daily about roulettes around endwalker’s launch. If he had the choice he’d have said some nasty stuff to newbies himself. He just couldn’t.
All I’m saying is, it’s just not perfect either, much as i love it.

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Also just checking that you’re specced and playing as Discipline or Holy priest. Your profile shows you specced as Shadow which is a dps spec though the profile is sometimes out of date.

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Depends what you mean by community.

M+ is very toxic because it’s kind of competitive tanks with massive egos, people thinking better than they are especially in pugs.

The actual good players are playing in stable teams and not pugs and they are not toxic.

The best approach is find a friendly community or guild that are happy to show people what to do and are normal people just playing a game.

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I played since before classic was called classic :slight_smile: i dont do mythics … require you know alot of nice ppl because if you dont grps are just…well not fun.
Generally speaking random ppl wont be nice to you. E.g i was doing some random bg on my druid to get enough honor to gear her and ppl were very rude because my hp wasnt high…eventhough it was a normal bg which i need to do in order to get better hp gear…
But ppl expect you to spend money on ah on gear, to know all tactics and shortcuts before you enter into anything.
It’s a weird thing really…

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They pug quite a bit as well.

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I would say try to find a community or guild that suits you, I am in a great community called scared of dungeons, and i can say I have yet not seen anyone been flamed or screamed at for beeing a tad slow.

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