Yes, I play Holy Priest, it handles dungeons very well. I had a very well geared Disc priest in a +5 dungeon that I was tanking on my paladin, and people they seemed to be struggling to keep anyone alive.
I’m not sure what others think is the better spec. But I’m enjoying Holy and its the Class/Spec I am currently pushing.
I play Shadow when doing world quests alone, so that’s why.
I think if most (or all) of your rl friends stopped playing wow, you should consider calling it too. Not necessarily to stop playing altogether, that would be a bit hypocritical to say when Im also here (I only partially quit since BFA till present) but to limit wow to the point that its no longer the main game. Unfortunately, on paper, wow is not a bad game at all but it did attract a lot of the wrong type of crowd and there is almost nothing that improved in DF (bar the plan to bad solo queue leavers maybe).
There’s plenty of helpful replies in this thread already, so I won’t go too much in-depth. But I will tell you that I’ve played this game on and off since 2005, and the very DNA of the game has been structured in a way that breeds hostility and competition between players. Things like ore/herb nodes being first-come, first-serve encouraged griefing behaviours, for an example. Small things. Tiny things. But very many of them. Only very recently (I think from late WoD/ early Legion) has game design begun favouring social harmony between players. It’s a very slow process, and there are large parts of the playerbase that actively resist such change - and there’s still a long way to go.
I think Blizzard were forced into adapting in part due to their competitors like Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV being more pro-social in their design, but also due to workplace issues that have come to light recently.
As a veteran player, I’ve gone from racing for world firsts with Ahn’qiraj and Naxxramas to being a very, very (very) casual player, and I don’t touch m+ content, because that’s a timed version of a normal dungeon, where you are racing against the clock, and other players may be very unforgiving towards mistakes. You also have to remember that behind other players is a human being, and not everyone is a mature adult with a daytime job. There are angry children and angsty teenagers playing the game. There are kind and gentle seniors playing the game. There are students, artists, lawyers, housewives and widowers playing the game.
You have to consider what kind of player plays what kind of content, and you’ll never be able to do more than guess, because we’re all hiding behind avatars. But do consider what kind of people will have enough time on their hands to invest in doing mythic+ content, and what they gain from doing so (and what it means to them to be able to finish it), and you might also get an idea of why failure is not an option, and why they might react strongly towards players they feel are threatening their accomplishments and ability to finish.
If you want to keep doing hardcore content, all the more power to you, but I’d say play with your boyfriend, make friends in the game, join a social guild, and rely less on random people. Just like in real life.
Good luck!
You just need to find a nice guild, try joining the ones that list themselves as ‘social’ you find all sorts of people in them. There are several women over 50 in the guild on one of my alts (not this one) for example, just to give an idea how diverse it is. And they play together to avoid nasty people.
WoW is wild west now - the more u are bashed, the more approval u get from herd (rest of team). Kicking someone from group is like wowgasm for players, when all are smashing hard “yes” button with some edgy txt as reason for kick. I guess the highest pleasure for people is kicking in LFR - this is real jungle. Like Illidan said:
in pugs people most of the time super toxic and insult non stop. i played warframe earlier for many years. community is here EXTREM MUCH better.
I don’t think the community is generally toxic, but I think “impatient” may be the nicer word for it. Even in normal dungeons, the ones you’re supposed to wet your feet in and learn the layout of them they try to plough through, leaving you behind if you can’t keep up. If you’re too slow or get lost, they’ll boot you without warning.
Your best bet is to find a friendly social guild to run with. I’d try to target small to mid sized ones, because it’s easier to get to know everyone. Of course it means you won’t find a group as fast, but you’re more likely to make friends in a smaller community than get lost in the crowd if that makes sense.
Couldn’t agree more. Occasionally Blizz like to create a new system that throws the cat amongst the pigeons and divide the playerbase eg. item level and Mythics.
Then they like to focus on that smaller percentage of players instead of the everyone as a whole, because they play the game the way they want it played.
They should be concentrating on freedom of play, not herding everyone in to one style of play.
I’d look for a small guild with only a handful of players if I were you. Somewhere, where you can play at a comfortable pace without idiots.
To be fair, it’s not their job to explain anything to you. It’s all in the dungeon journal.
While it would be nice if they did, you can’t go into dungeons expecting strangers to take time out of their day to teach someone a dungeon. Ain’t what they signed up for.
solders don’t think they just follow oders the squad leader do the thinking i guess not all been in the army …
If you want a friendlier, more social server where random people help it’s Argent Dawn alliance.
Ello Mon
Argent Dawn very friendly and always helps each other mon
Stay away from voodoo
I think you genuinely take it a bit too seriously a video game in all honesty.
The most important thing while you are connected is to have fun, you interact with other players, but that doesn’t mean that you need to understand their behaviour or take it seriously.
Tendency these days is everything to be rushed, there are a lot of reasons, players have no time to spend hours in it and they want instant results to progress, other are simply impatient, but all these should not affect you at all.
they want to kick you? fine you ll get another party, they don’t explain to you? you better start asking and you ll notice answers will come.
but overall I would say to step 1 meter back and do enjoy it rather than paying attention to all factors that overall are not influence you at all.
Y’all remember good ol time when you just suck at the game you get better or get used to it and doesnt farm simps or searching advices here where best advice is just common sense.
Anwers in no specific order:
-Why doesnt your boyfriend teach you? Its a good thing having someone in Real Life for that. Makes things much easier.
Dont do M+Content when you dont know the mechanics. Normal/Heroic is for that (or just read a Guide).
You just dont play long enough to develop enough muscle memory. You said “HealingRotation”. Thats something you shouldnt even think about, like changing Gear while driving. Your musclememory should take care of that.
Give it a bit more time.
With enough gear you can simply outgear lowlevel M+. That will give you a feeling for the difference between normal and Mythic.
Dont expect random people to teach you stuff. That rarely happens, in any game.
Last. Dont expect Random Groups to be chatty. Chances are they speak another language than you. In my Realmpool there are Russians, Germans, and Italians for instance.
If you want to learn dungeons you have normal / hc and mythic 0 modes. You can take guildies and spend there whole day if you want to .
M+ is a timeatack. Its rush by its design .
If you bity join pugs instead go with your guildies that’s your fault for not coming prepared enough
Yes, they are. No matter how many times others in this thread may use the words “competitive”, “impatient”, “there is a timer”, “forget and move on”, “no one is obliged to tell you tactics”, plugging M+ has a very high chance to meet completely outrageous, abusive and rude behavior. This is the game’s problem. Blizzard generally does nothing about this. Because of this, the community gradually got used to it (what else can we do? Either got used or quit).
So the situation is: do not pug M+ alone. Go with friends, 3 of you are enough a vote kick from other 2 to not pass. Join a community (you can join Scared of Dungeons or look into Communities section).
I perfectly understand. But WoW’s community not only became more immune/tolerant to bad behavior, but also unempathetic. If this wasn’t the case, the community would have long ago cried loudly enough for Blizzard to enforce harder measures against bad behavior and unjustified kicking. But they don’t care much, so join communities, play with people you know and avoid plugging when you can.
To improve, it’s self-explanatory, one has to read at least the adventure journal to see the mechanics, and also see your talents, know how to play your class, it’s an end game content and you have to be prepared. But even if you’re not, there’s no moral ground to abuse and behave rudely because one didn’t do their homework. But this is what is tolerated, sadly.
Whilst i sympathise with you, if you’re pugging it could be argued as rude to enter the pug without any idea what to do.
If you want to pug you need to look into the dungeon mechanics yourself so you have a basic understanding, then use low keys to practice before starting to increase your key level.
If you want to learn on the go it’s unfair to do this in a pug environment, and also not beneficial, you’d be best finding a guild or a group to play with who are willing to coach on the go.
Alot of people are absolute dreadful. Super impatient and rude seems to be the new cool. It seems to have taken a massive turn to the worse in season 4 of shadowlands.
That is the main reason that I barely play these days. I simply cannot deal with these horrible people anymore.