I believe these people are so far down the rabbit hole with information that it is not grounded in truth or logic alongside emotional argumenting that you can’t reason with them anymore.
I watched this whole thread folllwing arguments and the discussion, and I want to know if they’re now gonna change the narrative they held on for so long now that I pointed out that these symbols were representing the sex and not the gender
They believe in their own reasoning that sex and gender are different, but they do not realise genders weren’t removed, sex was.
And the symbol for sex and symbol for gender is the same… The meaning is just different
And these people you are referring to could write the exact same thing towards you… And a lot seme to write these same things a lot of times towards everyone
I don’t either, but just went by what I’ve seen on these feedback forums. It’s virtually always the responders to those users disagreeing who are punished (some rightly so, but many not), while the users who provoked it in the first place are deemed ok.
You followed this f’cking thread, how about you go back to what Bob wrote, I think his way of describing is is good…
No no no, you are not winning, I am not backpeddling either, it’s just you repeat something that has been written so many times now, that you could really just go back in thread and read.
But for easy reading, have this one: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccounts/articles/whatisthedifferencebetweensexandgender/2019-02-21
If they are the same, they only represented male and female. And since there were only two options, we can safely assume they were sexes. If they were to represent genders, they would have added at least a thrid one. They are being removed, thus the conclusion would be that they are deleting both sexes.
Edit:
I don’t know if you noticced but the guy was proven wrong on that point.
Hah but your own article actually backs up my arguments.
There are no cultural differences between Male or Female in the customisations screen.
The attributes to what defines gender is cultural.
So basically, long hair to women, short hair for men, skirts for women, pants for men.
Seeing as the differences between male or female are purely biological in the customisations screen, as you can perfectly have long hair as a male, or short hair as a female, or wear a robe as a male and wear pants as a female, it doesn’t really back you up. Instead, it actually falls in line with my argumentation.
Khazragore was writing about these people, and if these people would change their train of thought when the read his writings about the symbols are representing sex and not gender, but as I was writing it represents both, but the meaning are the same…
What you are answering I don’t know, so i will not go into this thing you are pulling
Sex and gender are terms that are often used interchangeably but they are in fact two different concepts, even though for many people their sex and gender are the same.
This is from the article, and in the first paragraph, different concepts it says
So, I am stopping this back and forth now, I have no energy this another one who invents things based on things he doesn’t want to read
Again, you didn’t read further.
further down the article you posted:
The UK government defines sex as:
referring to the biological aspects of an individual as determined by their anatomy, which is produced by their chromosomes, hormones and their interactions
generally male or female
something that is assigned at birth
The UK government defines gender as:
a social construction relating to behaviours and attributes based on labels of masculinity and femininity; gender identity is a personal, internal perception of oneself and so the gender category someone identifies with may not match the sex they were assigned at birth
where an individual may see themselves as a man, a woman, as having no gender, or as having a non-binary gender – where people identify as somewhere on a spectrum between man and woman
There are literally no social constructs present in the character creation screen, and if so you can point them out to me.
The character customisations are purely biological differently.
And besides, that article you posted is from the UK government. I’m not a UK citizen so I don’t need to accustom to whatever the UK government thinks is true.
But you don’t apply it to your own reasoning though?
How am I actually getting emotional?
You are stating that gender is a social construct and that these differences are socially constructed by what we define as male or female.
Sex is defined by the actual biological parts of a male or a female.
The character creation screen was never about social gender constructs in the first place, it quite literally is the difference between a biological maleand a biological female.
There aren’t even any gender constructs in the character creation screen, so I don’t know why people, like you, assume that the male and female sex symbols were about genders in the first place, as both male and female can have piercings, aren’t socially defined by clothing or hairstyles either. Both male and female can grow long and short hair.