Okay, now I’m curious.
Why do you think they’re making this change in the first place?
Curious and a little terrified.
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Why do you feel the need to ask me to clarify? It isn’t ‘HR’ because there are no HR offices within WoW. I can’t find one, nor can I complain that I’m being harrassed by some Paladin. The concept of HR doesn’t even exist within a game which still has slaves and a working-class hierarchy.
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I just laugh at how pathetic it all is nowadays, it’s frigging hilarious
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Good lord.
Well, at least I had no reason to be terrified.
Indeed, but I’m more concerned at your lack of awareness for sarcasm.
Ofcourse lol. what reasons were u thinking of?
It’s a game, this isn’t for HR. HR suggests it’s related to work, it has nothing to do with what the company’s policies are for working there.
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I’ve had a break from this cesspit for a few days but thought I jump back in to address the recent posts here regarding that states that Gender is being removed from the game entirely.
Let’s start at the beginning.
First and foremost, the Gender option that you select in the character creator screen today is a playable character option. This mean that any NPC character in the game has their gender expressed through the story, lore or their dialog.
Secondly, the option for selecting your characters Gender is being removed from the Character creation screen, this is a fact. In it’s place will be an option to select a body type that resembles something that most would deem more masculine and one that is more feminine.
Gender however is not being removed from the game.
If you had selected you gender on that screen when you created you character, congratulations, is still the same as it ever been after the pre-patch. If another player was to message you, they would assume your character is a man, and address you as such. No change to your in-game experience.
After the pre-patch the same thing will still occur. You want to be a man, select the typical male looking body type and congratulations, people will still automatically assume your character is a man.
This change will not affect NPCs in anyway, and it will not effect how people will treat you in the game or how you see your character.
A lot of the arguments here will be something like “oh well it’s only a minority, why should the game cater to them”
Yes, this is a change that positively affects a small minority of people to make the experience more inclusive.
But people of colour a generally a minority, disabled people are a minority, but we we make changes that positively effect them and make things more inclusive because it the right and decent thing to do.
I understand this is a game, and not the real world, but I can’t find any mention canonically that trans people don’t exist in the world, that non-binary people don’t exist in the world.
I don’t understand why anyone would feel threatened by the fact the the button that labels you Male and Female is being removed from the character creation screen.
Just label yourselves, its perfectly fine. You don’t need an option to tell you who you are.
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So… Technically, it is being removed. Depending on where you apply the argument of it being removed.
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From the character creation screen
Not the concept of gender from the game.
And where are they represented within WoW? I don’t think I’ve seen ANY disabled NPC within the game promoting inclusivity.
You’re using words like ‘threatened’ isn’t the language which folk have being used here. A lot are saying they don’t want any changes to classic, and I agree. The issue isn’t with it being added or feeling ‘threatened’ it’s the fact that these small changes that amount to nothing, and as you yourself have argued for a reason for the change, could have just been Role Played. There was no need to make the change.
A better soloution would have been to utilize their 3rd option of unknown gender / anything else, which some NPCs use themselves. This would have kept all parties happy and wouldn’t have required any major work other than adding an additional button.
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Whoopsee.
HR is also there for advice of their own products. Loads of things happened back with their own ppl. Changing things like paintings and body type do show that they care about it.
What did u say again? 
I think out of everyone, that person has made the least amount of sense.
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You’re enforcing a real world concept, on a completely made up world which I’d love to see some examples of any of the playable races within Classic/WoTLK being gender neutral or otherwise within the Lore (and I say playable, I know others exist, but not what we can play). Orientation makes no difference, but I don’t believe, bar what you’d find in the depths of erotic fan fiction, there would be any prior to recent years.
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That it’s a game, an old re-released game, which didn’t need ANY changes to it. All it shows is that rather than trying to fix actual issues in-game, address server population and imbalance, that they’d rather play dress up and make believe.
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Its funny. You have an alt char liking your own posts.
Anyway. It doesnt affect the game at all.
Of course that’s exactly what is happening, you assume just because someone disagrees with your view that they’ll resort to ‘liking’ their own posts. Grow up.
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Ppl like you ignoring core context of ppl explaining things, pretty much yea. But go on, believe that the game changes because theres a body type option now of a rereleased game.
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Again, you’re making assumptions when you have no clue yourself and do exactly as you preach. I understand the reasons, and in Retail? Fine, crack on - but leave Wrath alone (Insert Chris Crocker meme)
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Afternoon Eredar,
Just because you want a game with no changes doesn’t mean you’re a monster. Let’s not try to twist my words.
But if you’re denying the need of having a third/unspecified gender for people who identify as such you are definitely in shallow waters. They exist. There is need. You and I don’t have to like it to acknowledge the reality.
I don’t think Body 1 and 2 will affect at all our gameplay or we will be able to tell. But still I could be wrong. I’d be interested if I choose Body 1 weather the NPCs will refer to me as ‘‘He’’ or ‘‘They’’. Because if it’s ‘‘They’’ me being a straight male - I’ll have a problem with that. Not because I have a problem with transgender but because I have a problem with Blizzard sacrificing certain identity for the sake of inclusivity. There shouldn’t be compromises in that regard. There should be outright additions to the already built up system such as having male, female and adding an extra unspecified/third. So everyone can be truly included and no one left behind.
How would you feel if our initial genders weren’t squandered and on top extra added ?
I get it you want ‘‘NO CHANGE’’ and you blame Blizzard for not standing up to their word. And from this point of view you’re right. And I agree with you - they didn’t stand up to their word. But honestly if you we got our genders untouched and extra added on top - would you honestly still want ‘‘NO CHANGE’’? Because if nothing is sacrificed only something added that doesn’t affect you - you by definition then turn into a non supporter of transgender folk.
You don’t want politics or changing of social structures to come into the game. Neither do I. But it’s happening dude. Blizzard and other companies are doing it. Why ? Because there’s an actual NEED. You think it foolish that Blizz removed genders. Transgender folk think it foolish that they have no extra gender. There HAS to be a middle ground. We just have make sure that ‘‘THE HOW’’ is done right. All we can do is make the best of it and make sure everyone’s interest is defended fairly.
Either way I think all would be calmer if there was no scraping of genders but rather building on top of them. It would be more fair.
Kind Regards to all.
P.S. - Regarding how many people actually wanted the change. You and I both can guess that number is pretty low. But that doesn’t mean they should be battered and left behind. Included yes - but not at the expense of the majority. Sometimes I feel others intentionally stir up situations like this.
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