Is this the endgame for my niche playstyle?

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Hello fellow Azerothians!

This expansion… have felt awkward to me to say the least.
Had my account hacked. Had to start fresh.
I boosted and mained rogue because of Outlaw being awesome.
Outlaw was nerfed, damage wise. I went Assassin.
Assassin got nerfed. I really despise sub. I just won’t do it. Switched class.

So I went warrior. They seemed to be able to kill me in 3 hits every time with 2 buttons.
I leveled the warrior as fury. I never liked arms as it feels too clunky. I like high levels of engagement. Fury was nerfed and forced me going arms. No ty. Switch.

So I went to leveling a hunter. At least they are somewhat fun, not the best but easy and relaxing to play while still being somewhat competative for a introvert casual less-than-average player like myself. I never liked BM though. Or Survival. MM IS the hunter.

And yeah. we know what happened there…

Now I’m trying to level a priest (shadow) but seeing as my currently played class have been nerfed by the time I get to endgame and gear up, I keep wondering… what is the point? It’s obvious that I’ve been trying to chase a position where I can start having some fun for almost 2 months now. I cannot catch up.

Another thing… is this expansion worse for solo players? I see many ppl praising DF because of solo content but where is it? I am left clueless.

I am a casual introvert that has a social job and quite little time to play tbh.
I just to thrive on the fact that progress always was made, even if it was slow.

But it seems progress now is stopped for me when reaching 385+ ilvl.
a) People dont play less than M15+, and people only succeed in doing so by playing with players, coordinate and communicate. Guilds and friends are needed. I have no friends playing wow. And I’m not social enough not to feel anxiety when interacting with a guild.
I also tend to be the last one recieving loot from guilds, as I am being down prioritized every drop. It went to the point I didn’t even feel like rolling on items I was actually permitted to roll for.

b) I don’t like raids because of the same thing. It is nothing but stress for me. Not gameplaywise, but what is required from me to the social group. Communication, levels of skill, ilvl and so on…

c) Pvp progression… You can farm honor gear i 1 day and become 411 in pvp. Like everyone else. So Gear doesnt give any edge whatsoever at this level. I used to be able to slowly upgrade to conquest gear though, but that is locked behind… Becoming ranked in arena. A place full of smurfs, boosted ppl, russian nolifers and… noobs that you will depend on. I know I am one of those noobs 99/100 times for sure, but why am I losing 100% of my games? Am I the worst player in history? Probably, looking at my progression = 0.

So I am now stuck at 385+ pve and 411+ pvp.
This could both be achieved within a week after reaching endgame for me.

I tried the profession way of gearing too, but it is exhausting. It requires so much research even being a customer, it’s like a second job. It’s not intuitive and above all: It once more forces me to start communicating with other people in order to get anything at all.

I just feel like I don’t have it in my any more.
Whatever I do in this game, I fail.
Even if I manage to land a few days in an overpowered class, combat still feels off.
I have been a rogue since vanilla and defined by high numbers. Lethal dps.
I feel worse than a noodle now. At the same time, warriors kill me in 3 hits when my cd’s are off. Not only warriors by the way. It feels like everybody is taking a enormous chunk of HP from me whatever they do, but however much I try, i get them down a mere 20% at max.

The only way for me to land a kill in pvp is joining the battle when enemy is pretty much already dead.

Long post, sorry for that.
But please don’t just see this as a complaint. I want to have fun, but however I try I just fail at it, given my apparent niche mentality.

I just want to have fun. And also relax. While somehow gaining progression in time.
I don’t need to have it all right now. But it’s been 3 weeks since i last progressed on my rogue, and for my gameplay there has been no way to progress unless I’m pushed into my uncomfortable zone.

And sorry, one more thing. The vault. I just cannot accept it. It is nothing but a timegate ensuring that blizzard gets to give as little content as possible, while the player has to invest more time. I don’t have that time. I don’t enjoy the feeling of choirs needed to be done each week in order to get SOME progression each week.
My activities doesn’t yield anything in that area anyhow.

Is this the endgame for someone like me? As in, end of game: I am done?

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This is my main

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Balancing is a neverending issue in an mmo. Buffs and nerfs will be coming constantly. If you only ever want to play something that is on top of the list and only until it gets nerfed, you will have to jump from toon to toon constantly.
Or alternatively you could play something you enjoy without worrying if you are on top of the dps meters or not.

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If you can’t handle rerolling every time balancing happens, stop rerolling. Whatever ‘better’ class you level will only be better until the next round of balancing.

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I can handle rerolling. What I cannot handle is that it’s not only “balancing”. They’re literally changing the way the whole spec works. I play specs I find fun. Being dps, I also want to see somewhat numbers to follow that.

They should balance numbers instead of skills and GCD’s.

Outlaw felt fine to play even if it did less damage. But this last update? Jeez. Nobody wants to keep playing it, because the design is ruined. There is no flow.

Same thing with Hunter. They shouldve nerfed the numbers, not the skills.
What is MM without its burst? It was a risk-reward class but now it is risk-sustained damage which is ridiculous.

Same with assassin rogue. It had problems with survivability, but was a danger to watch out for. Now, assassin needs time for dots to work over long times. Easily countered. Along with being pretty much kill on sight.

Also, if one chooses DPS to play as their main type of gamestyle, number is the main cause for most people to play. What is the point of being dps if you cannot… dps.
Did we get utility? No. Survivability? No. We just because straight out useless.
Even frowned upon in groups.

How could one keep maining such a class while still gaining progress?

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Better in PvE, I would think, but I haven’t had a chance to test that yet. I’ll probably raid on mine tonight, so I can judge for myself.

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i started dragonflight with 18 chars at 254 gs or better from the pre patch event where i geared my shadow lands chars , this made leveling in dragon flight quite easy , then boosted an undead assasin rogue which was once the best rogue class in the game , £47 for the boost its a big rip of when boosted to 60 the rogue,s gs was 130 which basicly meant he was one shotted by every thing , so i switched to outlaw same thing , after buying a few cheap green items from the auction house now its playable , but for a 130 gs item level and £47 for the boost this is the first and last char i will boost , blizzard / activision need to look at char boosts and value for money because this is just grand larceny on their part

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Or play preservation evoker. I’d lay odds that it’ll be strong for at least 2 more years.

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This is the most cringe post my eyes ever wittnesd.

Yea you seem to be a real bad player, so just try to be better, read some guides, watch some gameplay, train on the puppets idk mate.

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This is my observation as well.
Tried Evoker, but the playstyle is not for me.
It is a glass cannon, but are getting buffed more and more into a diamond death ray.
I predict the next update will buff evokers even more.
Guessing blizz are too afraid of offending the transgender community and the cancel culture. Or that enough ppl arent playing them.

Anyway. Too ugly too play imo. :smiley:

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Not cringe. I am a bad player. And my post describe how I feel like not fitting in anymore.
I used to be able to do alot better previously in WOW, and had a great deal of fun.
I could understand the game and I didn’t need to read guides and do research in order to learn how to get better.

I’m sorry but if a game cannot teach its players on how to improve, alot of potential market shares will get lost.

Also, I’m not here to offend people. This post is not about you. It is about my experience.
And whatever you feel about my experience - cringe or not - it is true for me.
This post is a sincere question.

“Am I done now?” Looking at the current culture in this game, with certain players like you “valuing” others opinion, I guess I have my answer. Nobody seems to share my experience so I guess I will move on.

I no longer seem to be within the limits of this game’s focus group.

In my book, people like you are the ones who are cringe.
You seem to be unable to view the world through anyone’s perspective but your own.

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You are neither cringe not alone in your way of thinking.I feel pretty much the same.This is the first time I write here because I could not let you think you are alone.There are many of us.We are just not voicing it enough.

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Thank you. It feels so lonely.

I could scout out a post or two about it, but not many from this expansion tbh.
People are still in the hype, I think.
And it seems as if lots of people like us left the game a long time ago.
Or it could just be a product of the elitist mentality that took over Wow’s player base.
It is like it’s not allowed to criticize anything anymore - you will get the cringe word thrown to the left and right. Bad player. I am good, you are bad. L2p and so on.

Thank you for your post.
I feel awkward enough in this world I live in, just a bit sad that the very same world I tried to escape from has found its way into pretty much every game I like… :frowning:

I am a boomer at this point, I know that. An oldschool gamer with 25 years of GAMING experience. This is not gaming. This is nothing but competition tbh. The core of fun is hidden behind high end achievements. I guess esport I used to feel so strong for transformed the playerbase into people I dont even want to play or have fun with.

Because they are not fun. :slight_smile:

Anyway, life is calling. There are more important stuff than “cringing” on the internet these days.

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You couldn’t recover your account? They usually roll back to just before it was taken.

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plenty of people play in low keys.

they are not just good players. only casual players like you .

you jump from class to class hoping to be carried by meta spec - thats you problem . any class/spec is more then viable to keys like +20 . it just had to be appropiatly geared.

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all you need to do to improve is literaly read the tooltips in game. and spend like 10 minutes top on wowhead.

you can even literaly do couple of clicks and copy bis build from everywhere .

you are just making excuses for sake of making excuses.

want content for people like you ? there is plenty of old raids from old expansions to farm transmog in . it requires literaly 0 skill you can have fun there farming trnasmogs sets from past.

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Ignore the meta and play classes you like, the difference isn’t big enough for the vast majority of players.

I main BM hunter and I’ve been at the top of the Meters against “Meta” specs just as often as they’ve out dps’d me. It doesn’t really matter as we still get the content done in the end.

Play your rogue and if you reach a “wall” chances are it’s your skill ceiling rather than any meta limitation, unless of course timing +30 keys is your bag.

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Did you contact customer service? I have been hacked several times back when chinese goldsellers were still a huge spamming plague in stormwind and oggrimar.

And i always got my gear, gold and items back. Customer service might be slower these days but i reckon getting your stuff back shouldnt be much of an issue

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Not completely, there’s a few pieces here and there that you can still get probably.
But it won’t be much. I’m at 388 myself at the moment and still have a few slots I can get upgrades for. But it involves getting lucky with bottled essence. So yeah… That won’t be to everyone’s taste.

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you problem is, that you are going for the best class all the time, instead of finding a class you like to play

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