Is Warrior finally a good solo PvP class in DF?

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Hey everyone! :slight_smile:

With the new class changes in Dragonflight, I’d love to hear what people think about Warrior, now that the new talent system FINALLY allow us to have self-healing, mobility, AND a stun at the same time.

I am the type of player who loves playing classes that can “handle itself in 1v1 situations”, so when it comes to plate classes I have always felt forced to avoid Warrior as a class.

As it is currently, I HATE that the row 30 talents doesn’t “add” to your arsenal, but instead feels like it forces you to give up the other two… It is making you choose ONE of three abilities, which SHOULD ALL be baseline… :confused:

Which essentially means you are forced to rely on healers or teammates, since you have NO survivability, and only two (long CD) gap closers against opponents who can kite you indefinitely…

WORST… 1v1 CLASS… IN THE GAME!

And for any Warriors trying to argue with me on that :point_up_2:, you will never be able to convince me otherwise hehe. :sweat_smile: Nearly all guides or forum topics agrees that Warrior is a “team class” that can’t do well on it’s own, unless you overgear, or have MUCH higher skill that your opponent.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m aware of how good Warrior is on a team. :slight_smile: But I’d love to be able to play it on my own as well in 1v1 scenarious in BGs, or in WPvP without feeling at a disadvantage.

But like I mentioned at the top, we now get all three in Dragonflight. :slight_smile:

So I’d love to know from the ‘skilled PvP players’ in here, if Warriors will now join the “good solo PvP class” category, alongside Paladins, Mages, Rogues, etc… ?

Or does Warrior still have weaknesses that are considered bad in solo PvP, even with both mobility, self-heal, and a stun being added?

Thanks :slight_smile:

EDIT:

Just to add to this post… My 40k health Paladin is much stronger than my 70k health Warrior, when I enter the starting zone of Dragonflight… Interesting whether or not this is caused by “early on leveling”, or if this will remain a theme all the way to max level.

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fury looks very strong and very boring.
hybrids are usually better in 1v1 situations, except rogues and sweaty mages that makes you throw your keyboard out of the window.

that said, warrior is getting quite an amount of selfheal but i am certain thry will easily countered by something like rogues or mages

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“finally a good solo pvp” HUH? because now its not ?

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Yeah I have only tried Fury on beta so far. It is definitely more fun and useful than the current live version, but just feels a bit underwhelming dmg wise. Or maybe it’s dmg is fine, and Paladins dmg is overtuned hehe. :joy:

I have yet to try Arms, which people seem extremely happy with. Some have even said that you can finally play that spec in duels, without ripping your hair out. :slightly_smiling_face: So I’m crossing my fingers for it feeling amazing.

If that’s your personal experience with it, then don’t let me shatter your illusion hehe. I never said you can’t solo PvP as Warrior, but yeah it is considered by the majority to be the worst solo PvP class in the game.

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mage is a worse solo class than warrior, u r a mage, u should know

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no it aint

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how not, literally nothing will let u play

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Yes I do know hehe. More than you clearly.

Anyone reading your comments will immediately see that you have absolutely no idea about how the classes work…

You are either trolling and having fun provoking, or have absolutely no sense of how the classes play. :sweat_smile: Like… At all.

Either way, there is no point in arguing with you. You are clearly the type of person who is stubborn enough to stick to the nonsense you are writing.

So you can come with all the replies and arguments you want, but you really don’t have the knowledge to be allowed an opinion in the first place. You are just creating needless noise and misinformation to anyone who reads this, and actually want answers.

For anyone curious about the ACTUAL reason why this post was made… :joy:

I have been testing out Fury and Arms on beta for the past two days, and from what I can tell it feels like an entirely new class.

Mobility feels at least twice as good, and with the additional healing and stun Warrior appear to be a valid “solo PvP option” for Dragonflight. I haven’t tested this in Arena or BGs, since the latency on the beta servers aren’t good here in Europe, but survivability and utility is definitely miles better than retail Warrior.

Like I said, I haven’t tested it… But it appear that many of the weaknesses have been “fixed”.

Or rather… Warrior feels “whole” now compared to retail version, where some of the talents feel like they should have been baseline all along. I personally feel that of all the classes in the game, Warrior is the only one that feels like it has had it’s abilities stripped away, and placed in a talent row. And essentially allowing you to “only pick one”. :sweat_smile:

I’d love to hear other PTR/beta testers feedback on Warrior. :slight_smile:

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Clearly you know much more about solo pvp than i do, i mean, with numbers like 1371 honorable kills, i can only imagine how much pvp you have done in your wow career, on mage at least

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So you are gonna pull my character log?

Let me tell you why that has no weight behind it whatsoever…

You have absolutely no clue about how long I have played WoW, or how many characters I have. I could be my 10th Mage character, or a fresh alt that I created last week, or a character I created years ago but haven’t really touched until this season.

A persons stats says incredibly little about their knowledge of the game, since people play it in hundreds of different ways.

Not to mention that there are people who played since the game came out, who muscled their way up the kill counter, and STILL have NO brain when it comes to how the classes function…

When you try to use my logs to prove a point, it shows how much thought you put into things, and how little you understand it. And it’s what you typically see people write in here, when they don’t actually have anything relevant to the point that is being argued.

You might as well have said “my character can beat your character”, and it would have been just as irrelevant as pulling my logs in this case. :point_left:

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well i think its kind of improtant to put things on perspective, when you have 2013 achivements on a character that has the same hks i do daily on good days, and yet, you claim that i am “so far away from reality”
and believe me im not boasting for having farmed since classic, as this account/char was made in cataclysm, while i did play classic, it was on another account, and another character, and… funny, used to be warrior from vanilla to wrath too

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I can tell you didn’t bother reading my reply, otherwise you wouldn’t have replied that…

My whole point with my last reply, is that it is irrelevant to pull character logs. :roll_eyes: I even went into great detail explaining why.

And your response to that is to pull my achievement points, on THIS particular char I’m writing from… And add “how long you have been playing” … Had you read my last reply, you’d know that your playtime is irrelevant to your skill level…

Either you don’t wanna bother reading my replies, or you are incapable of understanding what I’m saying. And I hate that I let myself get baited into arguing with someone, who obviously don’t have have a clue.

I’m not going to continue arguing with you.

And no that doesn’t mean “you win”, it means I should have known better than to argue with with someone who has both fingers stuck in his ears.

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im the clueless, when i can see all your char, how long u have been playing them “i couldve created this a week ago”, no u can’t, because u have char achivement from 2013, meaning that this char is 9 years old, aka pandaria, thats just one of the many bs u have just stated, u r the one calling me clueless and that i can’t possibly know how much pvp u have done, well, i don’t know before 2013, but from 2013 till now, u have basically done less than a normal week for a pvp junkie… so, i find it interesting that you would say someone else is clueless, has no idea, out of this world, when u are doing babysteps in that direction… and while i don’t know how many characters u have, or had, can see 10 of them, only this one is mage, but even if they were all mage, ud still barely move from the spot u are

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I created this Mage char 3 years ago in 2019. :point_left: Had Twitch not started deleting old videos, I could even have proved it since I created it live with my at that time 300+k followers.

“The 9 years ago” was when I created my WoW account.

You are STILL trying to use logs as an argument, when it is a completely useless thing that won’t prove anything about “Warrior or Mage being a bad solo class”. It’s like arguing with a 12 year old who can’t think of anything outside of “character logs”. And even then you aren’t reading it correctly.

Since you can’t stop looking at my character log… if I look at your character I can see that you only reply or create comments on extremely toxic forum topics.

And let me guess, you are now going to argue against my point, by talking more about irrelevant character logs or playtime? :clown_face:

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You are right hehe, I should have just ignored him from the start. :sweat_smile:

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nah thats my line, u got to be a godamn troll. i shouldve stopped answer soon, gl with your 0 iq reasoning buddy. “i never played pvp, but i know better, nono u are stubborn” legit u, cya.

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Whatever it is, mage certainly is not the worst solo class.

Mage is a very strong duel class, especially if you cheese and reset infinite times to reset your cds and just eat back to full HP.
The only thing mages have problem killing solo, are healers because they just have no stun.

Mage currently is a very good BG class as well because:

  1. abundance of self heals and shields
  2. immunities and escapes
  3. stun trinket on 16s cd
  4. crazy burst that requires 0 casting
  5. range class that can nuke from far away and even has % HP skills to nuke people in trashran

Generally speaking there is no BAD solo RANGED class in BGs.

if you are purely judging from 1v1 perspective, there are some classes that dominate everything but most other classes will lose against specific other specs.

e.g. a fury warrior might be terrible against mages, but it is pretty easy vs enhance shamans
enhance works well against (some) casters but is generally free loot vs melees.

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well, the rated bg ladder beg to differs, also my and many mages experience in sitting literally ages in q, and i mean, 3-4 hours to play a 1.6 game…
i don’t know, how people still think we have this so called “mobility and escapes” we have, 1 blink. thats it. all the heals barriers and alter time, are dispellable, in fact, u can’t ever stay alive very long vs any class that has a dispell, sham, shaman for example

as for the crazy burst withoutr casting, yeah, in season 1 maybe, now, basically every class can survive with with 1 minor defensive without even healer healing

i tried with 52% versatility, and even from a full, db sheep, GREATER PYRO plus meteor combustion, in disc command proc, while stacking flamecannon, i could NOT kill a retribution paladin, sitting 10 item levels below me, i thought i was gonna force his bubble instantly, and then try to kite, but nah, he didn’t bubble or flash heal, he saved bubble for my next sheep so he wasted it randomly.

and warriors struggle only a little vs fire, they dominate frost and arcane, and fire against necro warrior that know what they are doing, not as easy at it sounds

we used to easily beat sub rogues before 1-2 more nerfs hit us, last big one was the 25% shield reduction on blazing barrier

right now, you have to be mentally crazy to still play mage id say, its in one of his worst states, im siting beta with 200ms since first day it came out, or playing my shadowpriest, wich feels more mobile, has better ccs, does more aoe dmg, and kills targets more easily thanks to psyfiend, and no im not hinting that spriest is op or anything.

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ur mind is infested with the delusion of how bad ur class is. do urself a favor and play something else.

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