1792 is not enough to even get KSM which is basically free this season. Are you high?
E: if I list a +5 I get people with higher rio so realistically it is bad even for a +5 
I have to reiterate, this is not exactly a new player we’re talking about. He’s been playing, although casually and on and off, for years, and he wanted to try some mythic+, so I thought sure, why not. I tried my absolute best to help, but even understanding that one button generates a proc and another spends it was too hard a concept.
25+ years of playing videos game in general as well, which makes it even more mind boggling to me what’s so hard about WoW in particular.
And to be honest, I wouldn’t say the anvil boss is overwhelming, which is why I picked it as an example. You don’t really have to do anything on that boss as a DPS besides damage and dodging. Nothing to actively think or worry about ahead of time, no interrupts, just tank and spank.
It’s not relevant what the secret to killing Elden Ring bosses or enemies is. The point is that in that game, the bosses don’t follow a set patterns, and you need to get the timing right to dodge their hits, and the time window is just a few frames.
WoW dungeons bosses do the exact same ability pattern on repeat every single time and instead of frames, you have entire seconds to deal with them. And instead of having to jump or roll in the right window of just a few milliseconds, all you have to do is walk a few yards.
I honestly don’t understand how the difficulty an Elden Ring boss vs. one of the easier bosses of WoW dungeons is even a discussion.
I did think about it. Seeing how he struggled with melee I suggested even back then that he tries a BM hunter or destro warlock, since a simple ranged spec might be easier for him to learn on. He then played destro in remix, but he always gravitated towards melee oriented classes/characters in every game, so in TWW he’s a ret pala instead, although now as a super casual.
I get that, but it’s not required to maximize melee uptime. I understand that staying in melee range can be somewhat difficult especially for a new player, and I did emphasize to him that it’s important, but running out of melee to dodge a mechanic a few times isn’t not even close to enough for the healer to do more damage than you. In order for that to happen you also need to get your rotation horribly wrong in the time that you actually are in melee, which is what was happening.
I don’t know what frost DK is now, but back then, all you had to do in your CDs was generate a killing machine proc with howling blast and then spend it on obliterate. That’s all. And for the life of me I couldn’t even get him to understand that and he’d just keep mashing procless obliterates until he ran out of runes. I know he’s not stupid, so that’s why it’s so baffling to me that he couldn’t comprehend something this simple after a month of trying.
It is hard to decide of find out for that one player here on the forums, of course.
I played frost DK in s3 myself too, and yeah it was basically 3 buttons with 2 upkeep buttons. And ‘123’ abilities macroed in 1 button when you wanted to use cooldowns.
And i struggle very hard on dps since i main heal 
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No, they are trolling. Dont get baited ahah
I do prefer them too but in WoW i prefer ranged cause melee is too cluttered and a lot of mechanics force you to sacrifice uptime which i hate.
As a ranged you should be less subject to panic.
I mean it could also be that he is not that interested into learning tho.
Besided, rotation.
Other mistakes could be apm related. Like taking too much inbetween button presses, a common mistake is people tend to think too much about rotation, and waste gcds.
Its generally better to press something than nothing, but besides that i am more inclined to think issue was spec not clickin
Of course, I’m not expecting to diagnose the exact cause if why this player couldn’t make it. It’s just that it gave me a unique perspective in that this is probably about as good the average player. And I quite frankly don’t understand what’s there to struggle with. I think the peak is that one time on the forum where a poster came here to demand nerfs to LFR Sylvanas because the bridge is too squiggly and they keep falling off, and it unfortunately didn’t look like satire.
I think that’s probably it. He’s just not really that into it, but at the time I thought maybe that’s not the case because he kept asking to do keys and seemed open to learning.
That too, but also just pressing the wrong buttons. He’s quite slow so I wasn’t expecting him to get the max amount of obliterates into a pillar window. In fact i did tell him to learn how to do it slow first before trying to do it fast, but that didn’t work either.
Then there’s no point arguing with you, clearly your mother should’ve read the warning labels on her wine.
bc this is my main xd!
Yes, doesn’t change that League is a billion times harder than WoW will ever be lmao.
I knew Ishayo was a special case of slow but acting like being top 1% is anywhere near as hard as being top 1% in League is absolutely delusional especially because the average WoW player has the mental capacity of a turtle.
Cope and seethe mr. 1 Warcraft 3 hero unit is uber skillz.
EDIT: If you mean that WoW only requires you to look up what happens and then come up with a set strategy while LoL requires you to make generalizations from specific observations in each game, then you’ve severely underestimated WoW, especially PvP. Just looking up what a Warlock can do won’t even remotely prepare you for dealing with one in combat and all the different ways it can be played, as an example.
WoW is hard at the very top but it’s still nowhere near SC tbh. This game takes skill to a whole other level that cannot be reproduced in WoW. Or in any other game really.
Edit : just to be clear, I do agree top wow players are really really skilled.
Well… have fun in LoL eh?! We’ll manage without you I think.
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I think people would argue it depends on what level you personally play the game at.
For me no wow is not hard.
But i only ever played it super casually with next to no mythic+ and raiding.
Ah, yes, the "this isnt my main account " defense… because the feats of strenth that would denote significant experience with the content at hand are all account wide 
And? Different games require different skills, no more, no less. Just like a rocket scientist requires a different skill set fronm a brain surgeon.
The assumption that one is superior to another simply because of performance in one specific niche is patently false. Any skill can be learned, and that all top end gaming is in ANY cenre, physical or virtual… appling skill that aou have üppracticed and learned, at a high level generally combined with some form opf professional training as well as innate talent. But literally anyone without significant disabilities can do it if they invest the time and effort to reach that level. That is where 99% of people fail, time and EFFORT.
For ex. in Q3A or CS I could probably mercilessly roflsttomp most RWF guilds and LoL Orgs in a 32 vs 1. Does that make Quake or CS immensely harder, and me an all round better player and superior person to all of them, the Ultragamer supreme par excellence?
No, it simply means I´ve played thousands of hours more Quake than they have and used to do it professionally on the side, so i know tricks and tactics they would never dream of and have seen others do things they can´t even imagine… no more, no less.
So you admit you’re a casual player, you don’t push past +10 and don’t play a meta spec.
you also are getting beaten by these meta specs.
Why would anyone want to take you over some sweaty neckbeard who lives in his mums basement who min/maxes everything and this game is his/her life?
I don’t know if i’ve ever seen cope this hard. At the highest levels of raid/M+ a single mistake can cost a pull/run.
Imagine in league you missclick or whatever once and the entire game is lost. That just doesn’t happen. In M+ it does
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It happens all the time if you’re not in wood leagues.
Besides wth am I reading people comparing epeen on a video game. You are all too bad to even know what the cream of the crop in both those games is about.
That applies to me too. But this conversation is pretty pathetic.
You can make a single mistake in League and still win. In M+ you’re racing a timer, the single mistake at a high enough key will ruin 30 minutes of effort. Key is dead.
It’s not epeen it’s a statement of fact. Pvp and pve are not the same.
So why are you arguing if you don’t know.
So why are you arguing if you don’t know. I bet you’re “wood league” and the equivalent in wow lol
That came as a revelation to you just now? 
Where did I argue? I stated you’re way too trash to have a single clue about high end in both those games. There’s no room for argument about that. What, you’re Faker?
Sorry in my ranked games if we make a mistake we die. Same as in my keys. And I’m still awful at the game compared to actual good players.
Yeah just go away and try to master something in your life. Because as of now the only thing I see is a random that is not good at either, and probably the same thing applies to your actual life.
I feel bad for you take care
I remember my first time watching Race to World First. I couldn’t care less about the race; I was more interested in seeing how some of the best players in the world actually play.
To say I was disappointed is an understatement. It felt like I was watching a bunch of people trying to learn choreography. They were just going to keep banging their heads to the wall until everyone learned it.
Lmao. Why are throwing a tantrum?
You hide on an alt lowbie, let’s see your main if you’re so confident.
You’re the one projecting and getting upset for no reason. You getting declined from 5s or what. Or was it mummy not giving you tendies because you won’t wipe your bum after you dookie xD
edit - you’re a pvp andy, i understand the tears. F
Frost dk, rogue and even destro do more dmg than enha.
But yes, nerf enha! 