It’s about time we addressed the racism and other issues in World of Warcraft

[Galaxyk-outland]

From seeing whats going on these days I dont even think he is trolling . There actually are people like this the loud minority.

[Pufino-doomhammer]

@Tomb-zandalar-tribe

it’s not even funny anymore, it’s just sad

True.

@Galaxyk-outland

. There actually are people like this the loud minority.

Let us make sure that we are the louder “group” and make sure this is poured down the drain as quickly as possible…

[Ussrainblood-doomhammer (Ussrainblood)]

So much Bulls*** than you don’t know where to start with as there is nonsense spouted like bile everywhere : the only evil humans portrayed evil are undead ( and the effin crazed SCARLET CRUSADERS ? You are not one of us , burn ! The syndicate and plenty others ) not because they are evil but because they are undead.

Yeah friggin right ! Those peacefull little creatures enslaved,tortured and took pleasure in it, experimented on, burried alive, used chemical bio weapons and managed to already erases two major civilisation and capital city just from what i can remember they sure aren’t evil by themselves, while they are a few non demented/hatefull and crazed non forsakens undead, get a clue !
Well deserved flagged thread !

[Nightmohawk-azjolnerub]

@Thavius-argent-dawn

Okay, so, with all this discussion about racism in the real world and in the games industry, and more specifically in RPGs, I feel like now is the best time to raise issues I have had with the game for a long time.

1. There are no non-white heroes or NPCs as far as I am aware, I certainly cannot think of a single one off the top of my head.

It would also be nice to see some non-straight relationships as well. Let’s have some actual diversity in this global game please.

2. The idea that if you are a member of one race, you hate and are hated by this “other” race. We’re literally fighting race wars here, and it’s more than a little unsettling how much it’s just accepted.

The idea that a race or culture is inherently bad or evil or lesser has been used to justify slavery and genocide for as long as humans have existed. This should not be a thing in todays supposedly civilised society, even in a fictional setting.

3. The extremely racist tropes that the Horde embody. The “Noble Savage” Orcs and the “Primitive Savage” Tauren which seem to be based off of Native American stereotypes, and the “Bloodthirsty Savage” Jamaican trolls.

Caricatures can be extremely offensive as it is, without also implying that the Native Americans are little more than talking animals or ugly human-looking brutes. I don’t even know where to begin with how messed up it is to have Jamaicans represented by one of the most canonically evil races in the game, and to make it worse, Elves are descended from them, and they became “good” which is why they are elves. Think about that for a moment.

4. The prevalence of Shamanism among the Horde races, which is another negative trope directed at Native Americans.

The spiritual beliefs of a people, whether accurately depicted or not, are not a quirk, and should be treated with far more respect than they have been.

5. The fake “Asian” Pandaren with their fake “Asian” accents.

Chinese people living in China get plenty of representation, and are even depicted as pandas in other forms of media there. Chinese Americans and other Chinese people not in America do not, and this is extremely offensive to those groups.

6. The fact that all these “Savage” Horde races are ugly, while the allied races are not.

I already touched on this. The gnomes and dwarves look like humans, even the elves look kinda human. Shoving blood elves and draenei into the mix to “shake things up” does not even come close to balancing things here.

7. The fact that the only evil humans are undead, and they are evil because they are undead, not because they are human.

This just compunds the issue with members of a particular racer being inherently this or that, or automatically allies or enemies with this or that “other” race.

8. The fact that, among other things, we are frequently asked to slaughter Dragons, particularly Dragon babies. We know both in and out of character that Dragons in this game are sentient and sapient beings, yet we still regularly slaughter them like it’s no big deal, even killing babies while they are still in their eggs iirc.

I don’t really know what to add here, other than it’s messed up and needs to change.

you are sh**** me right? you are sh**** me?
its a video game for god sake and not america.
Also we have wrathion, end of story.

[Thavius-argent-dawn (Thavius)]

It genuinely disturbs me how okay people are with the blatant racism in this game, but I wasn’t really expecting anything else. Also edited my post to specify there are no non-white human heroes or NPCs.

[Pufino-doomhammer]

You keep living in your own little world… with your so called “racism”. I will make sure nobody ever pays attention to this have a nice day thinking wow is full of racists or whatever you do in your own little world.

[Hínáta-kazzak (Hínáta)]

Racism :-

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

Or

the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.

If you’re attributing trolls to Jamaicans, you’re the racist since they’re an arbitrary race that happens to speak like that.

If you want to have a non-white human hero because… they’re non-white you’re also a racist.

Now go away racist.

[Korrina-the-shatar (Korrina)]

@Thavius-argent-dawn

There are no non-white human heroes or NPCs as far as I am aware, I certainly cannot think of a single one off the top of my head.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sabellian

From TBC.

[Thavius-argent-dawn (Thavius)]

She’s not human, nice try though.

[Plasticmac-veknilash]

/ facepalm

[Eviette-silvermoon]

I am all for equality but this is a game, let’s be honest there are far more important things in the world to worry about. I would have no objections to more diversity but doing it just to tick some boxes so the SJWs can feel better about themselves…no thank you.

[anon27383459]

I guess Wrathion just has an awesome tan, then.

[Pufino-doomhammer]

I am also for equality but he lives in his own little world if your gonna make things up that wow is full of racism. He is talking about fictional characters like dragons and pandaren…

[Deea-ravencrest]

I hate gnomes with passion, I even log my Horde char and strictly farm low level gnomes in warmode. I also never help gnomes, when they need support. Does this also count?

[Schmusedecke-alleria]

lol, thats exactly what i thought that phrase is brilliant.

[Ironfist-outland]

I am offended that you are offended.

[Violetta-sylvanas]

Easiest flag of my entire life

[Beerwolf-sunstrider (Beerwolf)]

I concur with the OP. Let’s change this to World of Teacraft, where all races and creeds sit around to a cup of tea… discussing of ways to make better blends.

[Beerwolf-sunstrider (Beerwolf)]

Back in the day we used to ignore the village idiot, but now thanks to social media and gathering of similar minds their voices have become louder… and for some reason people started to listen to them…

[Galaxyk-outland]

I know its bad choice from my side to even think or read/listen to them you just opened my eyes I am going to ignore these posts from now on. Unecessary stress. Now I understand why Blizz employee always reply to “positive” threads… Why live with this.