It is confirmed. Bel'ameth is now a neutral "city"

It’s pretty much impossible to erase yourself entirely (your frame of reference is too deeply ingrained for that) but the idea is to play a character, not you, with their own personality, motivations, hopes and fears and all that. Like an actor taking on a role.

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Yea this just doesn’t make sense.

Something like teldrassil is not easily forgotten, people would not accept this.

Even if the night elves were to reluctantly accept the fact that they wouldn’t annihilate the horde, they would NEVER, EVER accept them into their new home.

This live, laugh, love bs is getting to absolutely ridiculous, unbelievable levels.

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I think this entire situation would be fixable if the Horde was still allowed into the city, but it only acted as a city for Alliance players. If anyone from the horde attempts to enter the city to do anything, all the NPCs should just tell them to piss off.

Sadly with wow writing such genocide is forgotten and forgiven within the same expansion it happened it

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What is even more crazy is: There is no armistice signed by banshees blood by Tyrande and Night Elfs. The fighting in Ahsenvale, Azshara and probably Ferales is still ongoing.
There is no sense in all this. No matter from which angle you look at it.
If horde need to be somewhere near E.D. portal. Valdrakken is there. It is already a neutral hub. Why spitting in Night Elf faces like this for absolutely no other reason except for pure spite

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I have a few points to make:

  • it makes no sense for the night elves to be forgiving and even calm, this tree if lost its done- they aint getting another one so its even more precious that that unblessed tree they previously had.

  • its not immersive to have horde in an alliance city. its not authentic. when you choose to play a night elf, you play from night elven perspective and from their perspective we learn that they are beyond traumatized, we went back to literal wow hell and we saw our ancestors spirits being beaten into shape, into weapons , tortured and creatures known as Amalgamations and what else not.
    Theres 0 insentive for night elves to allow anybody in besides the green dragonflight.

  • I will go one step further with this:
    Even alliance shouldnt be able to enter.
    Night elves were betrayed during BFA.
    If it wasnt for Tyranda, we wouldve probably perished. And the other alliance leaders would allow it or at least react very late which doesnt provoke any rational trust in the first place.
    But letting Horde in thats just the pure definition of absurdity.

  • Like this makes 0 sense, even if not rationally - emotionally it does not make sense either.

Help me understand how this makes any sense ?

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It makes no sense and if you try to found any sense in this, you will drove yourself insane

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There actually isn’t any fighting from what I understand. They castrated the forsaken to such degree that they lost about every piece of land they ever fought for.
And there is an truce but as far as I understand it only extends to the Dragon Isles and nowhere else.

Anyway, if people keep reacting negatively to this and seems most people are, they’ll have no choice but to change it.

exactly.
another point is i fail to grasp why people cant support a narrative thats not in their bias, that wont even affect them negatively yet they act like it does.
silvermoon for the blood elves
bel’ameth for the night elves
orgrimmar for the orcs
thunder bluff for thr thauren
undercity for the forsaken
gilneas for the worgen
stormwind for the humans
exodar for the draenei
gnomeragan… wait we defeated the legion we still havent gotten gnomeragan back, damn manlets stronk.
Jokes aside, you know what i mean right?

Not true. Gilneas helped them. Also restricting the Alliance from entering would be a very, very bad idea.

Last info, as far as I know is Exploring Kalimdor. Fighting in both Ahsnevale and Azshara. Zappy boy seems he don’t understand why Night Elfs are still fighting or something like that.
There is not one source which states that we are at ruce or armistice or peace for horde and Night Elves. I searched, Didn’t found any.

Not Tyrande, unless it is signed with Banshee’s blood. I guess you missed that part eh? Now since banshee is still alive, armistice is not signed by Tyrande

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Both Alliance and Horde signed a armistice treaty and the end of BFA.

self entitled spoiled brats :stuck_out_tongue:

Yep, that part crossed my mind a while back. If those conflicts are in the past, they were still very recent tho. And if the conflicts are still ongoing, it’s pants on head crazy to be friends under the tree.

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true and i dont want it to be just for the record. Most leaders besides Genn didnt participate.

Darn Pervy Nightelves :stuck_out_tongue:

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That’s cause there isn’t any. There was a form of an armistice, I guess, drafted but not signed by all representative of the factions if I recall. The only change between the factions since the Horde lost the war is that they are no longer in open war. The truce is restricted to the Dragon Isles and it concerns the exploratory forces with are mostly made out of civilians on both sides. Aside that there’s nothing, especially something to justify this zombie standing in your brand new, very flammable city.

None leaders nor Alliance races participated except Genn and Worgen. Teldrassil was their home too.
Not even Draenei helped or cared about Night Elfs and if there was not for Night Elfs they would never be welcomed in Alliance

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It doesn’t matter, roots of warcraft is it’s dynamic story, world changes, so conflicts are too.
Honestly if your only argument on why horde vs alliance must still be is “it was like that always” it’s quite pathetic reason, we didn’t had alliance vs horde in wc3 and in wc 1-2 it was completely different horde and completely different alliance.

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Frankly, I believe the Draenei was more busy with dealing with the ending of Legion and more especially, Argus.

They cared, but they had other stuff more important to them.