It is confirmed. Bel'ameth is now a neutral "city"

I am going to hate myself in the morning for saying this and DAMN myself for always trying to found something good: But at least Shadowleaves was mentioned in this statement as “unseen eyes” refeares to them. This is the closest mention of them (Night Elven spies) outside of books.

Night elves suffering from Stockholm Syndrome? All I can come up with!

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Why is it a pathetic reason?

They had a freaking spaceship above Exodar. Could have send it to Darnassus and save elfs with it

As I said, Night Elfs, Tyrande, didn’t signed anything.
Which means at least Night Elves are still at war with horde.
As for Dragon Isles. This expansion is over. So that’s another reason why horde should not be allowed to enter Bel’Ameth

Bs that was the alliance

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They were kind of using it as their main base of operations on Argus. Plus Argus is still swarming with demons, as we learned recently.

because it undermines that warcraft must be a fantasy setting that constantly changes as narrative goes further and makes alliance vs horde conflict into some kind of ongoing gimmick that must going even if it does not makes sense.

Maybe they’ll let us gawk around for a while then kick us out. I hope.

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That’s my hope too. It makes sense to let Horde players finish their quest business and such. It also makes sense to then say: thank you very much for your help, now bugger off.

Even if I don’t count WC1-3. there is 20 years of animosity between Alliance and horde which deepened even more in BFA.
There is no forgivness.

And even in WC1 and 2 there was war between factions. Some leaders of the old Alliance and old horde are still here. WC3 was used as intermission towards WoW.
When WoW launched, peace broke apart. And that was 20 years ago. Being friends in one expansion is just dumb

How does it not make sense? The factions are still in conflict. There were no amends made for the damage done on both sides. No established consensus between them to serve as some kind of resolution to the current and previous conflicts. Nothing. How exactly does it not make sense?

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It is a fantasy setting which is named WORLD OF WARCRAFT man.

So from what I gather, Tyrande agreed to the Armistice post Shadowlands. I mean, she wasn’t very happy signing it, but not doing so would have caused more fighting with the Horde, and that is something neither side wants right now.

Doesn’t have to be horde v alliance tho. I mean, we’ve gonna be warcrafting against the void soon.

It makes no sense what so ever. It makes no sense for Horde to be there. None. In fact if I were a Horde character I’d be trying to gut that red hottie dragonette for putting the whole world in danger so they can get their ambiguous aspect powers back. What do I care about nelf lodging or aspect powers. Please someone help me care.

No she didn’t. Armistice was NEVER signed by Tyrande. I dare you to found even one shred of evidence that she did. There is none.

And again. She didn’t sign it. Maybe some writer in blizzard knows that but population of WoW never got that info out. So it doesn’t exist.

She was ready for a fight . For as long as it takes, that is what Exploring Azeroth- Kalimdor is telling you. The fighting is ongoing. Night Elfs and horde are still at war.
There is no other info about it. Which mkes horde being neutral in Bel’Ameth even more stupid.

animosity between alliance vs horde must’ve ended after MoP, whatever happened in bfa is attempt to make war out of nowhere, unless sylvanas and every horde leader recieved a script and acted like it’s their to-do list

So? Everytime we had human vs orcs conflict it was always demons acting as third party, wc3 made human vs orcs conflict a despicable war, and true enemies were demons and scourge, every time wc3 brought up the topic of faction conflict it was only for punchline “we were blind fools and our true enemy are demons”, bfa just forgot it and started to treat war as something unironically serious and not resolved in almost every expansion.

for reasons, i guess

Remember WOTLKJ? For many best expansion of WoW, for me it was BC.
Alliance and Horde was not at peace then. We didn’t join our forces to destroy Lich king except at Wrathgate. In ICC we fought against each other while we was trying to get to Lich King.
Interesting eh? How a good writer can make war between factions last even though there is greater enemy against us.
Metzen before he left for project Titan, now Owerwatch and movie, to return in Legion and quit soon after.

That’s one of my biggest pet peeves about WoW, finding out such basic information as “Who is currently fighting who?” is pretty difficult, with details strewn about in-game (Where it all should be), but also bits in books, mission table text, maybe a short story or two…

The most recent thing i know is the bit from “Exploring Kalimdor” (Which has the Night elves still fighting the Horde over their old holdings), but since we’re now apparently friendly enough to allow Horde members into the Night elf population center as if it’s a tourist destination, i’m getting the feeling i missed something somewhere.

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ehm, no? between bfa and dragonflight almost 10 years passed in universe, nothing indicating that there were conflictcs, or anything resembling cold war either