Its actually insane how overpowered dks are

Yeah because 50% of counters in bgs currently is not a big deal right?

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It’s just the way the game is and always has been, some classes just have hard counters.

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It’s actually not. There are currently 50% of them in bg’s because they’re the new thing. People are bored and have alts of almost every class, of course everyone is going to have a dk alt in the works atm. It will most likely not be 50% at level 80. Probably not even 20%.

Compared to the first seasons in actual wotlk vanilla, dk’s are ‘fairly’ manageable at the moment.
Every class has their hard counters and easy wins, plus everything inbetween.

At the moment the bg’s are pretty heavily dominated by Retridins, dk’s and rogues, in my experience. Dk’s because their new, Retri’s because they shot up in power and rogues… well, they get alot of fun stuff and are still pretty strong pvp wise.

That said, we’re in pre-patch… some things will even out a bit more when you unlock your Wotlk talents/abilities and with endgame pvp gearing.

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warlock vs dk fight is entirely dependant upon either arena type layout where u can keep him los & you have felhunter and get lucky dispel or u open on him at max range so he can’t death grip which has slightly lower range than your spells.

other classes have counters aswell but warlock vs dk is by far the biggest gap in any 1v1 matchup. play warlock, just accept that any dk that drops from the sky is likely going to run circles around you like they have cheat codes activated

funniest thing about dk is fighting pet classes. they keep their 0 dmg pet on me, and proceed to give me perma rune strike procs, so when i do get close i do 7k in one global if both rune strike and death strike crit, so much fun.
all green geared hunters/mages/warlocks are food

Locks are one of the best classes in wotlk for pvp…

1v1 against dks isn’t all that hard you need to play it smart then again a lot easier as destro

helps with circle @80 to teleport just have to force the grip before you use it.

and yeah if u have no pvp gear against pvp gear no chance anyway…

I literally said this long before Wrath was even officially announced. PvP in TBC was still fairly reasonable, but in Wrath…even if you are fully decked out in season 8 Wrathful PvP gear…you still get 1,2 and 3 shot. Resilience was just too weak to make an impact not to mention worked only on crit damage when damage was broken even at it’s baseline level…not just crits.
Resilience was great in MoP and Warlords, PvP then was an absolute blast once you got enough PvP ppower to negate some of the baeline resilience(think it was 60% in MoP and 40% in warlords, though i might mix the 2 up), giving PvP gear an fairly large advantage in PvP scenarios. Never have i had more fun and engaging PvP than in MoP and Warlords.

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Back in the day you can win them as Destro and Demo, not so sure about Afflic.

But a good Unholy DK is very hard, yes. They hardcounter both melee and casters. Only Ret beats every melee cleanly.

I’m playing with a non-equipped DK and i’m completely Roflstomped in BG’s… The class is good yes, but with gear and on capable hands. Like every other class.

First of, destro warlock is one of the strongest classes in wrath.

2nd. its pre patch, level 80 things change, you as warlock have soullink + chaosbolt :person_shrugging: Also port is another thing you get as warlock.

Also affliction is a bad matchup against dk, but still winnable, you just miss the tools, as said. prepatch

hunter is best pvp class

change my mind

got my lock to 70 and yeah it is miserable with DKs.

They have an ability to lock me out of shadow for 4 seconds, they have a non-trinketable 6 second range silence, they have deathgrip on a 25sec CD and they have AMS. Chains of ice to slow you down worse than a hunter if you even think about kiting.

They just rotate through all 4 of these and there’s nothing you can do about it. Sometimes they’ll have a ghoul stun you for several seconds too.

Still happens :^)

Also, can’t believe no-ones said the old class default response to DK whine threads: HERO CLASS LOL

You should have been here 15 years ago or so when WotLK, and thus also the prepatch, started with unbuffed resilience.

I feel warlock stands a decent chance against DK, not affliction though, they only stand a chance against afk players and maybe players that deal their dmg a bit slower like SP’s (and even then affliction is too slow in my overwhelming large experience).

Spam dots and get babysitted in a group or respec. Demo is fine and Destro is fine.

The Brymtoll Axe is is equal to SM btw and u can get in the First Clear also i believe the Lifedrain effect scales with the Unholy DMG thing

Everything is broken in the prepatch if you have full s4 + some experience on your class.

Wotlk pvp is balanced on max lvl maybe most balanced pvp in wow ever op saying its the worst shows you have never played it try again on max level when you have all your spells . on 70dks miss one important cd ERW and you miss your two kiting tools teleport and shadowflame for instacast 70% slow its gonna feel way better on 80

1vs1 is not balanced, bgs and areana are about team play

if you go into a fight u cant win why u coming on the forums and complain, u want warlocks to do everything? they can pretty much beat anyone in 1vs1 if the player is good enough

I think its a l2p issue here plus its the pre patch so chill

I have a full brutal geared warlock, resilience does nothing. Its like it has no effect in the pre patch.