I’m just glad that we are all super fine with how hunters representation in high rating 2v2 is beyond alarming.
It’s ok it doesn’t need to be addressed. Let’s cry about Ferals or something idk.
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Who cares man the game is dead and so is Blizzard
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Just so I understand what you mean here. When i look at representation arms vs BM at 2100+ in 2s, there are 443 arms warriors and 408 BM hunters. Or do you mean at 2500+, where there are 2 BM and 1 arms?
Is there something special about hunters presence there thats more alarming than arms warrior?
(not defending BM as a spec - i want it removed. Just trying to understand the point here.)
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He wants to nerf hunters, but leave warriors alone.
Do you think he plays a warrior secretly ?
Who cares? Isn’t like you queue with all different dog BM hunters around the world
Apart from that BM and Survival are long overdue for flat 20% nerfing or 50% nerf in killshot above 20% HP, only explaination there is.
The only way you ever win vs any hunter team is if you get to cheese them and ironically this is also only possible if you play rogue or WW which btw hunter never should lose to as well.
I am well beyond understanding how hunter teams aren’t yet 2.8 by default
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Didn’t you see that sarcastic remark about feral? He mains druid and is mad that people complain about his class being op (which it is). He already did that in another thread.
Feral is op and needs heavy nerfs just like hunter.
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I mean you should know best since WW can just blast hunters 100-0 through iron bark and NS.
Not like WW is a whole lot better lol, also blizz doesn’t balance around 2s and especially not in the middle of a season as we’ve seen in S1
You can cry your eyes out about bm here and blizz won’t do anything
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BM has highest representation in 2v2 as dps spec according to xunamate. How can you compare that spec to arms tho? Power of arms mostly comes to its loaded utility, which requires somewhat brain usage.
Not really, arms damage is beyond absurd and pressing intervene or condemn doesn’t require more than 2 braincells
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According to arenamate.net arms have a higher representation in 2.1k+.
They don’t have to balance around 2s to realize that hunters are a serious problem. And even if they didn’t, I remember they used to say during BFA that they look at almost every bracket when they nerfed boomkins just because of RBG.
But in the end any tuning is wishful thinking right now so you could say nobody cares.
Also my 100-0 is the only way of winning any hunter druid team. And this requires an insane amount of setup to execute, compared to doing unhealable damage with 3 buttons and no awareness as BM
They are, but so are many other things atm.
In the entirety of S1, they managed to do like 2 or 3 small hotfixes, and they didn’t even matter because they screwed up the mmr and the season died so everyone that was semi high at the start got to sit their safe r1 ratings.
It’s still broken though, imagine if the enemy team wasn’t a bm hunter or something else that’s also broken.
It’s much easier to accept that blizz just doesn’t care about its dead game anymore, and especially not about pvp.
They didn’t care when pvp was really popular in SL S1 so they most certainly won’t care when it’s dead like it is right now.
Arenamate counts both regions. Also why 2.1 k + ? We talk about overall representation. Why you put things in bracket? To compare it to arms and justify bm being op? on 2.5 k there are more bms than arms, actually there are more survivals than arms, how about we nerf both bm and survival then. Good logic mate.
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Well this build only works vs hunters, because the pets let me stack up spinning crane kick stacks with a special conduit. I have to make sure as well to never use Tiger Palm on the hunter, I have to make sure I get the pet in my legsweep otherwise sac is enough to survive, and I have to make clear that the hunter has no trinket. The druid is kinda cosmetic because there is not much you can do, but if I do 1 mistake the game is over for me
I think this alone should allow me to win vs hunters if I manage to do all of this which is so easy to messup as well, you have to play near perfection to do this consistently.
The funniest part about 2s is that iv’e seen hunter and druid players who haven’t played since WoD suddenly returning this season, its just super cringe how braindead this comp is that it allows these players to be high.
In the end no one really cares but maybe there is hope when they realize that hunters can use bloodlust in arenas and the AWC might be full of jungles dominating
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“Overall representation”. I dont really think whats going on at 1200 rating is as significant as balance/comp-representation as what happens at 2.1k+ or 2k+ or w/e. Im sure there are lots of tanks at 800-1000, doesnt seem to be important data for analysis. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
And if you read my post i said im not defending BM and i want the spec deleted.
Well I increased your bracket of observation and as you can see on even higher cr there are pretty much higher amount of hunters compared to arms which you love to bring to comparison. Even condemn smashers can’t hold the 3 button bms at some point.
Also just because you think that low cr is irrelevant it doesn’t mean so. There are way less dh players on 2.1 compared to bm hunters. Does that mean that dh is balanced spec? Does that mean that your whining about hunt was totally wrong?
Keep fighting for a good cause, we will achieve what we desire at some point.
I have a dream they would replace it with ranged survival which they stole from us. But that probably wouldnt happen anyway…
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It works marvellously against my Demo.
WW 100% cannot do that. Stop talking nonsense. Or tell your Hunter to use stuff, Idk.
But BM Hunter damage definitely isn’t 100x more absurd, and playing one requires at least 180 IQ.
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Yes they can, even ww players say so and if you don’t believe it, just play some arenas or watch a stream
Bias lol I’m not the one sitting here pretending that bm is the only thing broken about the game