So is it the kiting, the song by Mr. Smalls or the combination of the two that make it griefing?
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Honestly not sure what the issue is when they are griefing the experience of literally everyone else on the same layer as ST6. Sounds like excuses to just keep trolling and griefing the event when it is most likely not even intended for optâd-out players to even interact with the boss.
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I donât see how any of that is applicable to what is happening. They are interacting with the game world in a way that while it diminishes your capacity to optimally farm, does not actually disrupt or undermine your experience. In that were the case a mage AOE farming for example could claim that any player questing in the area heâs farming is actually breaking the terms of service, which of course would be ridiculous.
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actually it does, your opinion is irrelevant.
stating it does not disrupt or undermine someoneâs experience is an opinion and that is all you can give, unless it is about you as you donât speak for someone else regarding this.
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So ask for that to be changed then. Theyâre not doing anything forbidden.
so in your opinion i can go camp hogger and make sure nobody else can kill it?
btw this is the exact same thing and against ToS for a reason, except all i see from you is excuses for this behaviour in this scenario for some reason.
i even seen a human mage in a hc guild, sheep tethis until their alt tauren hunter turned up so they could kill it. preventing a few other players from being able to kill it for a good 10/15 mins just resheeping it to hold aggro. it seems STV brings out the worst in players.
No it affects literally everyoneâs experience on the layer with the ST6 group that is kiting the boss to narnia and thus grief the event. They are intentionally griefing the layer with boss without a good reason.
The mage in your example has a better reason than the raid group, heâs trying to finish a quest. What is ST6 doing? Screwing people over for no personal benefit and ruining their experience with the STV event. This is a clear cut difference between these two parties.
Too bad they are doing something that violates the ToS, and besides Blizzard wouldnât fix this mess of an event and ban the people involved of the kiting. They always have been incompetent when it comes to taking action against ToS violates when they are pointed out clearly.
Even safespotting to avoid guards in Lakeshire/Darkshire/Menethil Harbor by a horde guild on LF EU PMC PvE DRAAGONS hasnât been punished at all. Even when they were exploiting the terrain to have no guard retalitations.
And all of this is not intended by Blizzard, as they want people to take a risk for greater gain.
You keep saying this. Do enlighten me, does the boss become immune to damage when it is a certain distance from a certain point on the map? Whatâs this all about.
Surely a few of the many, many people there could just, oh, I donât know, kill them?
Having a bit of fun it would seem. Who are you to dictate how they play the game? Why must they engage the boss where itâs most convenient for you?
Just because you keep repeating something doesnât make it true.
Iâm an outsider to all this (old returning player) but had to laugh at reading through all this.
Itâs maybe an age thing, I have no idea how old the average wow players age now a days but damn this is childish.
Your going to meet people in life that will try and get a reaction out you, their brains thrive on drama/abuse/confrontation who knows? (quite interesting psychologically speaking) âŠdonât let them, say what you need to say ignore them and move on with your life. If you continue to report them in game hopefully you will get some support from Blizz.
All this right here is what they thrive on, its their drug, any attention is good attention to these personality types (just take a minute to imagine what their RL lives are like 
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First you gotta find them, then you gotta convince a layer of hordes to form a raid group to kill them, who all might be optâd in compared to people that are optâd out. Then you need to have communications in a raid fight, a fight they already lost. And they need to do this for the duration of the event, because ST6 can just move the boss back if the reset/kiting for the horde players doesnât work out.
Just because you and others are in denial doesnât mean this isnât a ToS violation.
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So it is in other words a skill issue, got it.
nobody thinks you are smart here if anything you look like a scumbag for trying to come up with excuses for it, just like i said before for people doing this sort of thing in the first place. you can never win here because you are wrong factually and the ToS themselves back this.
Blizz actually doing anything about it is another story but wrong you will always be.
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And you are just a bunch of crybabies. If you want to play farmville with orcs and elves, go play retail. What the seal guys are doing is - like it or not - quintessentially classic.
Yes you can
We had a guy constantly tag stealing Techbot during early P2 phase. He kept doing it for 2 hours. He got banned after everyone reported him. Sure, itâs automated. But doubt he got to appeal either.
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If you were any good at pvp OR pve there wouldnt be a need for you - or the ST6 people to whom you totaly not belong - to opt out of the pvp event by getting the buff.
Not only are you ignoring that your troll logic only applies to half the people there as you seem to piss your pants at the thought of alliance players, who are notoriously bad at pvp, taking a shot at you, you are also not comfortable with acknowledging that by doing so, you are effectively opting out of pvp by becomming unreachable by anyone thats active in the pvp event. Cross faction collusion to beat you would violate TOS, which you should well know at this point.
If theres anyone in this thread that has NO BASIS whatsoever to call others inept at pvp (or pve) that would be you, wouldnt it?
That is some tiny turtle energy you are radiating.
Whats the issue with them trying to kill the boss as a guild ?
Sorry guys, this is not a bannable offense, and even if it is, we will remake new account over and over to do the same.
See you next phase in STV 
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#NoGDKP ? #NoCoin for you. Communist doesnât deserve coin.
Yes, but so is whaling. Or skinning a person as I am concerned. Not all art is of positive value.
Suppose it isnt a lie that you are really not seeing how it applies, you not seeing or simply being deliberately obtuse or plain rejecting the argument is not really relevant. It is foolish to expect you to accept or admit to anything of your own volition. Thank you for keeping the threat alive and going all the same.
Iâd hate to think the GMs or CMs dont read the forums and we would have to pester someone higher up the ladder over social media over this.
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This thread is like a open buffet for the players your complaining about.
They have done the deed and this is the reward
Constantly replying to trolls is like feeding them cake
Arguing with someone thatâs getting off on finding ways to annoy you is a reward for them, it showâs them the results of their actions.
Your complaints are the sound of music to them
If this guild is as much of a pee stain on the community as people are saying your best option is probably reporting in game.
With enough players reporting them to the auto report system it should power up and do something, If that works they can explain clearly they where not breaking any rules and it will sort itâs self outâŠeither that or blizz will ignore it all.
Starve them of the attention they so desperately seek, ignore their petty behavior and laugh (or cry) at what their lives must be like to make them act this way (toxic parental influence? who knows why kids turn out bad)
Goodluck!
From the river to the sea, crybaby.
#ST6
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