People are sometimes a bit rude with such quests, they wander about or just run ahead of the group while everybody else is clearing the area.
What I did a couple of times in Gnomeregan with civilized groups was to roll for priority so one person would get all quest items until done, and as a rogue I passed because I could solo it.
Tanking in classic is super stressful. I need to be focused at 1000% to do everything smoothly. A few times I felt so burnt out that I wanted to delete the game and quit. It took quite some time to learn how to do it properly and have fun. It is not for everyone, some people just want to be chill and do some dps… This is the reason we see so many warriors that just want to dps and avoid tanking.
Also being a tank is very demanding. It is expected that you lead the way, you know when to pull with a bow or charge in. Sometimes I find myselft just standing there and trying to evaluate the situation and decide how to do a pack and the dps writes in chat “can you hurry up, this is taking too much time” which additionally annoys me.
If you want to have more tanks be helpful and support them.
its frustrating sometimes.
your group can seem to be actively working against you and making your job a pain in the bum.
you are responsible to check the groups resources while anyone else in the group does not give a single damn about your rage bar.
0 rage at a pull? pop all cds and AoE like madlad.
its most fun in my opinion, but it is also the one role where other people can make you miserable.
healers are only slightly better off.
A big issue is two of the classes that can tank are either a offtank (druids) or not a tank at all in raids (paladin) so you will find most of these are trying to grab healing gear and they feel the safest way to do that is to just apply as healer all the time.
As tank you mean? I’m ok with that as long as they say it in advance. Same with other specs (shadow priests healing, etc): just say what you’ll be rolling as, and if people agree, hop in. Just don’t wait until the rolls.
Except people are greedy they would rather wait an hour and make the rest of the group wait because they don’t want to share.
If they do that that’s their problem. It’s like when people say “X reserved”, “need 3 mages” or “I don’t need to do that quest so we don’t do it”. People agree on how they want to spend their time together. Find the ones that are aligned with what you intend to do or try to compromise.
They never will I actually made a thread about this.
It’s not like you’re getting it reserved you’re just asking to roll on it they basically want us to tank for nothing.
I doubt that’s the case when some people are even putting up with tanks reserving all righteous orbs. It just makes it harder. You can also find hybrids willing to heal despite rolling for DPS gear. I’ve done Strat with retribution paladins and feral druids healing.
Also, people tend to get greedier with strangers. Be nice to people and take note of nice people. Friend lists and guilds are for things like this. This is meant to be a social game, not the law of the jungle.
Why would people bother tanking dungeons, amassing tank gear and practice tanking just to be told there is zero capacity for tanking in raids and they now need to DPS.
How I see it is, it’s a combination of both how Classic is designed and the community being, well, not the best at times, or most people showing any degree of patience, or respect I guess, nor being all that understanding either.
I’m leveling my Druid as Feral. And specialising as a Kitty.
I prefer to play DPS in a party. Since I hate tanking, and I’m not good at it either. I have problems focusing if I need to track lots of stuff. So I rather not tank. Because I know I will mess up. RL limitation.
Done a few dungeons so far as DPS. But first question is always you’re a tank right… RIGHT? Thankfully most dungeons are with fellow guildies. And they know what my tanking skills are… 0 Some ask if I want to tank. But when I answer I prefer DPS then it’s “No worries” and I get to join as DPS.
So far I haven’t done a full pug. Cause I know what the first question will be. And I’m getting fed up of having to explain myself all the time that I am not a tank. Even though I’m a Feral Druid.
On a few runs the tank got overwhelmed and mobs were starting to go for the healer. On moments like this I have no issues switching to Bear and taunt the mob to me and keep him busy. But as a main Tank? No thanks.
I planned to level a warrior as a dungeon tank but i quit the idea fast. Reason being that you and the healer take all the responsibility and the DPS can just poo on you all they want they don’t have to do anything. I rarely see the ranged DPS picking off the low hp runners and stuff like that fx. As a tank you can either allow it to run straight into mobs or do something risky to try and dps it down fast. And then if you get pissed about it the DPS is like “chill bro”.
At 60 it changes tho cause the dungeon trash starts hitting harder so people have to respect the tank, but im in no hurry to solo lvl a warrior again by questing.
Guys if you tank dungeons with Pugs just make sure that your healer does not die, if dps pull aggro and die blame it on them and tell them you will kick them and replace with someone else in 2 minutes, you will see how they will shut up because they don’t wanna spend 45 minutes looking for another group.
I think this is one of key reason why the tanks disappear at lvl60. The raid size is too big in the classic till ZG and AQ20. In a proper raid 2 real tanks are enough. In dungeons need one tank per 5 ppl. Why do you stay on tank spec, when you can’t join the endgame raiding?
Another reason: An average guild don’t use druids and paladins as MT or OT for raiding. They have lack of key abilities and/or there are no tanking gear for them. We can say that the raid don’t trust them as tank, because the Blizzard designers designed them this way. Why should druids and paladins stay on tank spec, if the guild/raid leaders don’t welcome you, don’t accept you as a tank.
So, all in all:
Not this again. Paladins may be controversial, but druid tanks are perfectly capable and used by a ton of guilds.
It is not about how capable the feral or a paladin tank, it is about the guild and raid leaders. I think you should replace the “ton of” to a “couple of”. A bit later a feral tank can’t keep the pace with a full epic prot warrior and the raid ignore their support abilities.
They do fine today, and later on new gear upgrades make their threat and damage outstanding.
I stand by my words. The only problems feral tanks face is prejudice and misinformation, which is fortunately less common as there’s better understanding now than 15 years ago.
For my guild the biggest reason seems to be that there are 40 raiders, 32 dps, 3 tanks, and 6-7 healers mostly.
Naturally that means there is not enough tanks in our guild for dungeons. If we try to recruit more, they always want a raid spot as a tank. Since these are not available its very hard to recruit active tanks who have very little hope of ever getting a raid spot.
In dungeons there is 1 tank to 3 dps, in raids there is 1 tank to 10 dps. Things get a lot worse i notice when you take friends into account. often some tanks will always play with 1 or 2 dps, and those dps always have a tank leaving very little for everyone else.
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