True, but it isn’t against the rule to be rude against others, because what you are trying to support with your statement is inclusion of all the different countries, but by using a language that isn’t considered well known, lets say in my case german or spanish, you are doing the oposite whether intended or not.
Also just because something isn’t in the rules doesnt mean you should abuse it and expect noone to have a problem with it, it’s not against the rules to steal mob tags in SoD, but if you do it ain’t unlikely you’ll get a very unfriendly person(likely speaking in a different language in order to not be detected by the system) messaging you to fullfill a relatively bad kda in real life.
English isn’t the most popular because we are forcing other or we are making everyone bend to our wills, it’s popular cause it’s relatively simple to learn with good communication possibilities for all regions to unite under one, theres a reason it’s officially the most spoken language.
Not excluding anyone, just speaking a language aimed at a specific group of people that someone is looking for. If someone doesn’t speak that language, guess what, they’re not part of the group of people that’s being looked for.
You don’t need to be included in every single thing that goes on.
Yeah this is true, of course there are times when a certain group is spoken to, and yes there are obvious exceptions as their are to anything ever.
My point is simply, if you are aware the language you are speaking isn’t the common language on your server, you can’t be suprised when someone asked you what you are talking about or asks you to speak in a way that everyone can understand you. And the thing is alot of the time, atleast in my experience, when someone randomly starts talking in another langauage and not involving the relevant gaming words that can be associated with wow regardless of language like names or whatnot, it’s highly likely insults that will go unnoticed by the system, and the hostility towards this is why I often get a bad taste in my mouth when someone defends the speaking of other languages when english if commonly used or atleast a lagnuage that is commonly used on the server.
But yes, purely theoretically there is no reason for people to need to know what the others is always saying but I still find it kind of a go figure it out yourself kind of answer.
I didn’t mean that the insult will go unnoticed by me, that isn’t so much why it bothers me, I personally don’t get offended by people who try to insult me.
I simply mean that normally the game tries to keep the community to a certain level of toxicity and should anything cross that line they get reported and punished appropriately, but with the simple switch of a language that our system can’t recognize the insult, so it won’t be punished and this person remains within the game. It’s bypassing a system intended to keep thing tame and respectful among players, and making the game more toxic as a result.
But I don’t think that the people here would use it like that so I’ll rest my case, just wanted to point out that this is a side of what can happen when people aren’t held or expected to speak the universal language of any given realm.
But that’s the thing, the report will be ignored (unless it’s a mass report but that’s another issue on it’s own). Because the regulateing bot will not identify the words and assume the player said nothing wrong, because he’s in another language that the bot can’t understand and therefore can’t identify the keywords that would normally lead to a ban.
But like I said these are possibly just rare cases that I happen to face more often since I enjoy minor amounts of tomfoolery, so I’ll rest my case seeing as the majority of people here seem like decent people, so I don’t think they would have this in mind and truly just feel like the exclusion of people simply because of their spoken language is annoying/ unfair, and in that vein I agree with them.
The real question is; is a rule still a rule if its not enforced?
As an RPer, there are old guidelines on behavioural conduct on RP realms like AD which people constantly break but is never enforced, hence my question
My conclusion is no; a rule that is not enforced is unfortionately merely a suggestion
There is no rule as to what language you have to speak in a public channel. This is a common misconception.
Yes you are more likely to get a response if you ask in English. Sometimes I can read a question but I can only reply in English. As long as they understand it’s all good.
But that is something english speakers can easily do as well, as british english in particular has quite a few phrases/words that can be used as insults that I am sure won’t be picked up by bots.
In the end, while it is common sense to use English on international servers there is no rule in place to my knowledge to enforce it. If there would be then the provider should provide servers for different languages within the EU region.
I sympathise with OP in a way, but outside of it being bad etiquette they aren’t strictly doing anything against any rules.
This isn’t a new phenomenon either. I encountered this type of behaviour since I started playing games online (atleast since 2006).
I was under the same impression, that English should be used. At some point I started seeing more guild ads in other languages. I figured either the rule had been loosened or it was never a rule to begin with as noone batted an eye at it, and AD is pretty good with reminding you when you’re doing ‘illegal’ stuff
That said, to have long conversations in public chat in a completely different language seems pretty rude. If I wanted to have a conversation with a fellow Dutch person, I’d just take it to whisper.
People arent obligated to use english in public channels as far as i am aware.
It seems to me this is a bit like the question about ‘if a tree falls in a forest and noone is around to hear it then did it make a noise?’
Only updated for wow where people are terrified that offense was given but no one was around to understand it and then being worried that justice for the potential slight which nobody noticed would go without the required amount of internet drama.
Some people seem to have this odd syndrome that gives them the impression that everyone they see can speak their language. Some of these people are cool about it and switch to English if they’re able to, but others either double down, or only switch to English to throw insults at you for no reason.
I recently had someone apply to my group and whisper me in German, which I obviously didn’t understand, and when I made that clear, they switched to English, although terrible, but at least they tried.
On the other hand I remember very well certain two forum users who would use their native language to either insult people here without triggering the language filter, or to just talk to each other so that pretty much only they could understand each other. And if you dared call them out, their response would be “English are minority”. Some people just don’t possess the ability to reason very well, if at all, or they straight up don’t care and are being rude on purpose because that’s all they know to do.
I thought it was a rule that the Official Language of that server was to be used in public. Not sure how strictly it was enforced though.
I think it only really should matter in grouped content, you can’t have a Raid Leader (in LFR or PUG) giving out instructions in a language that no everyone can understand.
Of course if this is a guild run and the guild members all speak a different language then that’s ok.
If it’s in Trade channel then it doesn’t really matter, if they aren’t using a language that everyone can understand then they are losing potential customers.
