Language in Public chats

But more important: where was Gondor when Westfold fell?

We italian have 2 servers but i noticed when 2 or more ita players met in guild tendo to speak in italian (even when on an english server).

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I know, my point was that people exist who will just use their native language whenever and wherever they want, rules or manners be damned. Although the posters I mentioned tried to argue quite strongly that they’re not breaking the rules.

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You quote a completely diffrent thing, and attire it purely to the language question?
How nice of you!
My comment was about peoples BEHAVIOURS, and being DISRESPECTFUL in general.
Not the use of language – this conversation in specific was between me and another about a broader deal.

And I have CLEARLY specificed; It’s fine to speak other languages, ask a question, ask for help to be translated or so.
I am also not native english speaker, I understand this very well.
However, as in real life, it becomes disrespectful to your surrounding if you choose to speak in a language not everyone else understands.

Plenty of people are around to hear the tree, in this case, where they speak in public channels - in different languages.

It’s considered a courtesy to use a common tongue when in public, if possible, and adhere to trying to translate as well for those who aren’t aware of the language you are using.

Perhaps people just need to learn common decency - which isn’t common anymore. :dracthyr_shrug:

According to Blizzard US, I need to edit this comment. as you were.

I had a similar experience when I first joined WoW. I had enjoyed the chatting in the Newcomer chat and not only was it very helpful for a new player, but it was also just generally a fun place to be and made the game feel much more alive – without the need to find a guild or a group of friends, just randoms chatting every day. Lots of fun.

Then one day I noticed some were chatting in what I presume was their native language, so I suggested switching to English so everyone could understand or continuing their conversation in a private chat. I don’t recall exactly how the conversation went from there on, but let’s just say I did not feel very welcome to the chat during that conversation. I find it important to use English as the lingua franca, so that newcomers will always feel welcome to the chat.

Other than that, my experience with the Newcomer chat has been nothing short of fantastic. It has been by far the best chat in the game for me and I cannot wait to get back to it as a guide one day – but that 3000 quests achievement is taking forever as I cannot focus on 1 character and keep switching them all the time. :smiley:

If they don’t understand english or directly they don’t know it? :thinking:

“If possible” - not everyone speaks English and common courtesy isn’t a rule.

Well, English is used as Lingua Franca these days, so if a person decided not to learn it willingly (or under other circumstances), they just separate themselves from a huge part of the community, narrowing their interactions to those who speak the same language as they do. There’s nothing terrible in not knowing English (yet it’s kinda questionable) or using your native language in a public chat (I bet there’s always someone who shares a language with you). But telling others to speak some language because you don’t understand theirs… Well, also questionable.

In countries where the former native language is English, the former natives generally absolutely hate when people speak anything other than English. Which they do constantly.

I don’t mind players asking a question in their native language. I even except many newcomers will do so at times, because it might be easier or they might not understand something. But a guide can answer the question in a private chat if it requires a longer conversation. :slight_smile:

Just more of a “general rule” to avoid lengthy conversations in other languages in a public chat.

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About the language not having to be english in english servers, well blame Blizzard for it. We german roleplayer from Celebras had to experience what it means if the americans think that babylonic language chaos is something normal.
Because in NA unlike in EU they do not have like we servers specific for languages.
Instead there are servers for regions.
So instead of us with English, German, French, Spanish, Italian, Portugese, Russian,
they have west us, east us, latin america, brazil, ozenania.
And in those regions they expect everyone just search themself for a server and/or guild with your language.

On my realm, in trade (/2) people speaks croatian, polish, spanish, english… and, no problem :slight_smile:

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Hamstar a bhí ar do mháthair agus boladh sméar trom ar d’athair!

Not using English in this forum is against the rules. I recommend against using your native if it isn’t english.

I got a time limited ban once because I wrote for like 3 comments in german here. You have been warned (based on experience) :slight_smile:

“mónóg” not “sméar trom”!

Vulpera these day…

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People seem to completely miss this part of my note about this.
Asking something quickly / asking to be translated = / = (not the same) - as insisting on talking X language in public chat, because one feels like it.
That is 100% ok (Just to specify).

It used to just be common sense and respect for eachother to choose a language majority understands.

As a native English speaker who plays on English language realms, I don’t care what language people use in public chat channels. If I don’t understand it, I just ignore it (the same way as I just ignore it if someone posts in trade asking for a crafter for something I can’t craft).

It’s ludicrous that there are people in this thread whose native language isn’t even English complaining about other people not speaking English in public channels. There’s no need to be offended on my behalf. Thanks.

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If you want to be a part of an English server, you should be prepared to abide by the social standards of the Anglosphere. It’s not just about language, but also social norms, culture, and expectations. Speaking another language can make people uncomfortable and give the impression that you have something to hide. It can also alienate you from the rest of the server community.

If you can’t speak English well and aren’t willing to learn or accept the challenge, don’t access an English server. You can’t expect everyone else to fit your social paradigm, and you ask a lot when you can’t meet them at their level. For example, should a raid group sacrifice their time and enjoyment of the game because someone who can’t speak English well joins them? The answer is no. Miscommunication can quickly happen, leading to drama or even hostile intent.

The same applies to any other server. If you can’t speak the language or understand the culture, then don’t join that server. It’s disrespectful to expect others to conform to your ways when you’re the one who’s the outsider. If you don’t speak the language or understand the culture, then you’re not a part of that community.

It’s essential to recognise that different cultures have different social norms and expectations. For example, English-speaking cultures tend to be more indirect in their communication, while other cultures are more blunt. This can lead to misunderstandings and even offence if you’re not aware of these differences. So, if you’re going to join a different community, then you need to be willing to learn and adapt.

In short, if you want to be a part of a community, then you need to respect its social norms and expectations. If you can’t speak the language or understand the culture, then don’t join that community. It’s that simple.

It’s the same in real life you wouldn’t work in Germany and expect everyone to suddenly speak English. That’s why companies ask unless you have the necessary talent to speak the language so you can interact with the culture even though they have high English speaking rates. It’s fine if it is a holiday but even then people should try to learn and they usually learn much faster in said culture than in a classroom.