Savage! A troll calls me savage? I will have you know Im very civilized but sadly the Ogres kicked us out of Dire maul. Now we live in Teldra- oh wait, never mind. The savage Zombie elf burned it.
Well at least we live in Ashen- oh wait, never mind. The savage green aliens burned it.
Welllll , no offense but, did you see our big pyramid made literaly out of gold? I think thats less savage than some big trees!
The same big tree that gave you oxygen. Your welcome.
And hey if it was up to me I would live in Dire Maul but itâs in ruins soâŠ. Yeah. We live in trees now.
And even tho we arenât considered Highborne, at least we actually fought the legion without a shield soâŠ. Cough cough.
Thanks so far team, the glowing hands is a massive win! canât wait to see how it look on the ptr.
That being said, reposting this one.,
Again:
xx<3
Great list, I couldnât have said it better myself.
Great job so far guys, we are closer an closer to the actuall Nightborne.
Copy over from last wish nightborne thread
Gotta say⊠the most important things have already been said, but Mana hair and hands is something I would love to see as it realy defines them and seperates them from the Night elves. Thanks for letting us have the mana hands, but is mana hair also something you consider?
With that said I would like to add some feedback/suggestion. While looking at the hairstyles I was disappointed to not see the 2 iconic hairstyles the Nightborne nps have. Itâs about 1 for female and 1 for male.
Some of the proportions for the male model would need a second look imo.
Final thing would be the eyes still, I love the new ones, but could we have a third one that narrows it a bit more? npcs eyes are still more narrow then what we got. Making it a third option would be welcome change so people who like this one, donât have to worry itâs replaced for example. Just made this on the ptr for reference.
Some one added the npc eyes on the actual nightborne model.
Most of te stuff was already covered and itâs realy⊠a hand full of smaller additions and would make it almost exactly like the real one (npcs) Thanks so far for the Nightborne update and hopefully we could see these things happening.
Wow, guys. Blizzard actually confirmed theyâre going ahead with the hand glow.
Iâm happily speechless.
Hello. Blizz devs, thank you again for adding the glowing hands option. It means a lot.
I still need to remind that other changes are as important:
https://imgur.com/a/rm8MrJr
https://imgur.com/BZjlVn4
https://imgur.com/a/Dy9EDyh
@Anyone who has the right to paste images, please post the ones above. Thank you 
Also, if anyone is interested to help us organize to push for the above changes, we have a place of our own: discord gg KmuGR3QMaM
I think the biggest issue with male nightborne (which you see mainly through their eyes, and can see clearly when you put the ânew eyesâ on the current head) is that their problems stem from the fact the NPC male head is completely differently built to the one we have.
Male NPC nightbornes look like they have smaller eyes (they are literally smaller but not by as much as you think) because their brows are very pronounced which causes their eyes to look furrowed, and their eyes take us proportionally less of their head than on our chars.
I think what we will get will be okay and look good, but it will never âlook the sameâ unless they redesign the geometry of the male nightborne head because itâs totally different to the PC.
You only need to look at Oculeth and others to see it, our eyebrows kinda float above out eyes, whereas on the NPCs the eyebrows are flush to the eyes because of the way the brow sits. The NPCs also have much larger foreheads than we do, which makes their eyes look smaller.
Love the new handsâŠ
Just hope we can get a green fel variant available before the end of the 9.1.5 ptr
Updating the PTR now, Iâm very excited to see how they look!
Edit: It looks nice. I love how it makes the hand tattoos brighter! Still no glaive thoughâŠ
Thanks for listening and adding the hand glow, the NPCâs have the glowing hands outlined and I hope you can add that to the player models too. The next NPC feature you should port over: Glowing arcane hair effect as seen here: i.imgur . com/uMh4t0T.png
Itâs so nice! Thank you!
It looks pretty cool combined with the runic symbols on their hands.
Late reply, I think the issue of âare Nightborne Highborne?â Is a tricky one, to me it depends what you mean by highborne.
If you mean âa cut above the rest of their ilk, the highest of them allâ, yes
If you mean âthe specific named caste that was synonymous with Azsharaâ no.
The Nightborne do not refer to themselves as Quelâdorei at all. Their use of terms like lowborn and highborn is largely descriptive.
Yes, they continue the arcane heritage of the highborne, but that doesnât meant they consider themselves Highborne in respect of identity.
Iâd go as far as to suggest they consider themselves better than any Highborne, and that they refined and perfected the culture the Highborne began. The Highborne had the errors of Azshara associated with them, with the residents of Suramar rejected. Whilst Azshara and her Highborne fell into the sea, they survived. Their naming of themselves Nightborne, to me, isnât just because âthe wellâ rather itâs a rejection of the old label of Highborne.
But, as Nightborne they consider themselves the true perfectors of kaldorei heritage and culture, so their new identity occupies a very similar niche to them as the Highborne were, but they consider themselves different in some respect (as least in identity).
So when they refer to themselves as of high birth etc, they mean it only descriptively to me, they do not mean they believe they are literally Highborne as named in kaldorei days of yore, as they have rejected that label and consider themselves superior to it. Theyâve taken that legacy and done more with it than Azsharas lot could, but made it their own identity in shaldorei.
This is my opinion on the matter anyway. What is evident is that Nightborne occupy many of the cultural trends of Highborne, but I do not believe they identify with the Highborne namesake in particular. There is no reverence of such history in their culture, more the tools said culture wielded, and emphasis is how they perfected what they already had themselves to survive where the other kaldorei failed.
I also think they consider themselves different regarding their orientation towards their culture.
In ancient Highborne culture much of their behaviour and refinement and pursuit of magic was oriented around Azshara and her court. It was a means of identifying who was who. Magic was a luxury, encouraged, but a luxury nonetheless. The education students received in the Art was formative but was still under Azsharas thumb (we see this was the academy in Azsuna).
With the Nightborne their pursuit of continuation of these elements is simply their due factor culture, there is no longer a dynamic of âthe wild kaldorei brethrenâ to set themselves against, so it becomes simply a pursuit for its own gain rather than politicking for the queen and over the others. This is perhaps why we see such advancement of various arcane sciences under the shaldorei such as arcane botany and astromancy as well as Telemancy. Their magic became their way of life rather than their medal of honour. In doing so they took it to heights the old Highborne never could thus their claims to high birth became evident by this fact rather than through association with the queen. Thus itâs a superior identity they embrace.
Itâs an interesting topic of discussion and speculation for sure.
Hope you can add more eye colors, and also a dim one like the npcs have!
i.imgur . com/8hYW5qb.png (remove dots)
I really love all the nightborne things that are coming, still would love to have the tattoos more visible (Maybe with a second option to let them stay like they are).
And possibly remove the chin piece from the Heiritage robes since it could clip with the normal options (Wich make them unnecessary either way).
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Finally, add two more races for the demon hunter class.
Nightborne and void elves, to somehow dilute the elven gang in the factions. There are a bunch of teachers left on Azeroth besides Illidan who train demon hunters. That would be really cool.
P.S: And give already the Stoneborn symbol (or maybe even Nathrezim) for metamorphosis.
First of all, thank you very much for this lovely addition, I believe having the âglowingâ hands on your Nightborne, means that your Nightborne has ascended or has mastered the arcane powers, which makes me as an Arcane mage main so happy.
It is almost the same as having antlers on the Night elf, when they go beyond their limits.
However, I am not here to talk about those haha, I am here to give feedback as requested.
After yesterdayâs ptr update, I have checked the hand glow option. It looks AMAZING.
https://imgur.com/a/hZxmwJ5
https://imgur.com/a/POhzuur
https://imgur.com/a/x7yygbK
https://imgur.com/a/KhLLfpp
I know that is it still a work in progress, however, I would like to ask you to add the outlines of the glow that the NPCs have.
https://imgur.com/a/X0KG2Xx
Would be lovely to have it like this.
https://imgur.com/a/sQfRsiu
Looking forward to seeing this addition on male Nightbornes as well.
Yet again, thank you very much for the great addition.
PS: Mana hair also maybe please? 
https://imgur.com/a/eqyGvK4
I wish the male models got some changes to their faces and make them look like the NPC models instead of a slightly changed night elfâŠ
Nicely done, they look good, almost 100% like the NPCs. The only difference is that the NPCs have a strong contour line around the fingers. But Iâm sure that with a little twek that can be added to the player models as well. Plus I noted that if youâre using a body tattoo with a tattoo on the hands, if you toggle on the glowing hands it takes away tha ethereal effect from it. If possible you should find a way to make the tattoo keep the ethereal effect despite of the glowing hands, like the NPCs.
(I went near Valtrois to make a comparison since she has hand tattoos and the glowing hands, I canât add links or images or I would have shown it)
And thatâs it. Iâm dissappointed that in 22 days from the first customizations this is the only thing added despite the immense amount of sugestions given by the comunity. But I donât know how things are organized at the HQ, so thank you for even this small addittion, hope to see more. (Remember to give back the âSpellbreaker swordâ)