New different point from the other Transmog topic. How great would it be if you can cross transmog armor types?
Like seriously.
My friend started playing wow about 2 weeks ago, and he kept complaining why he cant transmog this awesome piece of gear, so i had to burst his bubble and say you cant because you don’t wear that armor type.
So thats a thing new players also want. Mogging all armor types.
I’m not going to speak for all of you but i think a lot of you wouldn’t mind being able to mog everything ?
This could maybe also be a solution for the other thread, where you dont even need to update all the transmog, but make all the mogs available to all armor types.
They don’t necessarily need to include raid/pvp sets (although it would be nice).
Everyone is more than welcome to share their thoughts.
It’s one of the restrictions I’m happy with and would like them to maintain. But I wouldn’t throw a hissy fit about it changing, there’s already cosmetic sets in the game after all.
More variety in how armour looks? Sure. More cosmetic sets? yes
But i’m sorry, I don’t agree with platemail clad mages and warriors tanking in robes. At that point you’re just needlessly diluting class aesthetics. If you want to wear heavy armour, you roll a class that utilises heavy armour.
I love the battlemage concept but it’s really hard to get a good transmog for that seeing as how a lot of the “mage” transmogs are locked to cloth.
I would be happy if they capped it even, maybe you can only transmog 1 or 2 “wrong” pieces at a time? That way a warrior can’t fully look like a mage for example.
Plus, there are a lot of npc’s that use the “wrong” type of armor. Go to Acherus and you will see cloth gear used to bring out the DK aesthetic for example.
I like that. It would allow for concepts like your battlemage (cloth with a bit of plate) or more robey paladins, for instance. I suspect such a system probably would be mess and headache for the developers (hence the current all-or-nothing approach), but that’s for them to worry about.
I don’t see a problem with this at all. Just imagine that the robes are covering the heavier armour underneath. Also, my warrior tanks in a pair of short shorts (well, he would if I respecced before this screenshot anyways). And some of the zandalari plate sets make him look like he’s wearing a miniskirt and a pair of shin pads.
To me there is a significant difference between tanking in robes with heavy armaments (which palte classes can wear through pala mogs for example) and a warrior tanking in a brown linen robe.
Now you may say “but why can someone tank in pants but not a robe?” well that’s just the nature of hidden mog, it opens up a lot more for us in terms of looks, but unfortunatley it does create odd scenarios like that. Point is the “armourless barbarian” is a common warrior trope, the “warrior wearing a sorcerers hat and fine velvet robe” is not.
This is just a line in the sand for me. Classes should be somewhat defined by their armour class (given they are literally designed with armour classes) and removing that makes the whole notion of armour classes seem pointless to me - you’re a plate class that doesn’t have to wear plate, so you’re not really a plate class then are you?
I appreciate others will disagree, but for me as a long time MMORPG player, classes having armour types and such is something I just don’t want to see rubbed out, it’s archetypcal class fantasy. Exceptions exist, of course, but they are exceptions.
I’d be more than happy for them to follow AR HA philosophy in designing more “utility” sets that work for many classes, and adding more mog sets in general. But allowing mages to wear any item of plate in the game appearence wise aside from tier sets? No. Just my opinion. Mages don’t wear plate.
For me this is like having a warrior class in a game that has a playstyle centered around throwing magical fireballs at the enemy. That is just not how it is done. In most fantasy games warrior implies heavy armour and weapons, and a mage/wizard implies light armour and ranged magical combat. I know i’m being a purist here but it’s just my view.
Recently noticed that one of the cloth robes in BFA is obtainable as a plate piece. www.wowhead.com/item=162622/
Not to mention that the armor classes aren’t really visually distinct.
You got cloth robes, leather and mail armor that is donned in plate as well as plate armor looking like cloth robes.
And to top it off you have NPC that completely ignores the restrictions. Either being generic npc using random pieces of armor or significant characters like Anduin the priest in full plate and Khadghar the mage with mail shoulders and leather chest piece.
The first is the fact classes can mog “odd slots” of tier sets from the past, ie the lock wearing a priest set. I personally think “odd slots” like this should be restricted to very small pieces (belt, boots, bracers) where utilized at all, but generally “odd slot” gear in a raid should have a generic appearance.
Re: BFA, I think the whole “all clothies have the same armour sets” was a bad move, i would have made it so azerite pieces are generic and do two things when they are equipped:
They unlock the current “generic” appearence of the piece
They unlock a “class specific” appearence for the piece in your mog library.
Upon collecting all three of a “matching set” of generic azerite (and thus unlocking the three class specific ones) you get an entire “set” added to your mog library that covers all the other slots too, effectively granting you a “tier set” appearence, but it’s like HA in that the armour pieces for most of the slots don’t actually exist.
That’s how I would have done it. I appreciate it’d be a lot of work but it would move away from the tier set philosophy (which blizz said they wanted to do) whilst keeping the strong thematic of it (which most players don’t seem to mind or actually like).
I think it is a good thing in an RPG that classes cannot always look the same as each other. Like, you can if you want, but there should always be a way for a paladin to look a certain way they only can because they are a paladin.
Same for races and the HAs.
Because “Evil” characters like warlocks can’t be dressed in holy clothes? Have we forgotten that both of the highest ranking members of Stormwinds church of light Benedictus and Farthing both served the twilight cult.
The EN/NH priest set that is free to use across all cloth classes feels absolutely fantastic to use for either a fire mage or destruction warlock because it it makes you look like an inquisitor of sorts.
Set in question: https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=2192/
Removing the restrictions won’t automatically cause everyone to run around in the same armor. It’s going to do the exact opposite and let players come up with even more creative outfits that might fill a certain theme they want for their character. And it would give us the same freedom blizzard themselves have when they make npcs so that the restrictions wouldn’t feel like a contradiction.
I’m not going to disagree with you here because you actually make some really good points.
I mean i’m less bothered by the “old tier set mogs” side of the coin than I am by the “all cloth share the one same set” philosophy going forward from BFA.
Warlocks being able to look similar to priests bothers me waaaaaay less than warlocks or priests being able to look like neither of those things, and instead, everyone is an nzoth cultist unless they mog otherwise.
And I’ve never understood why a wizard would suddenly lose their ability to cast spells if they put on some heavy armour. But hey, everyone has their own vision of class fantasy.
