Leveling nerfed AGAIN in 8.0

Yes, you're right, I do realise it's frustrating to be told "make a bug report" - but from my own play experience recently there's definitely mobs out there that are in worse places than others in terms of time-to-kill and damage output. Specific details about the mobs that feel much worse than others allow us to get to those, and alleviate those pain-points more quickly. However, this doesn't mean that the rest of the world won't be looked at.

Thing is, it's merely a difference between something bad and something really bad. There's but one instance of leveling that's generally fine, and that's 1-10. After that everything is insufferable, especially 60-80.
The reason some people on this thread are getting angry about this is because like myself are currently levelling a character and I don't fancy inputting a large amount of time into that process when a fix is on the way that would half that time.

Not to mention anyone who has brought friends for BFA and is trying to keep them playing explaining that this is a bug and levelling usually isn't this bad.
25/07/2018 13:55Posted by Aerythlea

It was explicitly said in the Q&A last week that it's not intended for leveling to take longer, or be any more difficult, than it was in 7.3.5. If a mob took around X seconds to kill in 7.3.5, it should still take around X seconds to kill in 8.0.1. If it doesn't, we will fix it - this is an ongoing process.

I see Blizzard has learned nothing.... 7.3.5 was a long and boring slog amplified by a good but poorly implemented level scaling. Seeing them try to paint it as the "optimal" solution is insulting and just show how out of touch they are with a big part of their community! The level scaling was good enough of itself, they didn't need to give more HP to ALL the mobs and nerf our total XP gained!

Nothing agains't you Aerythlea, i know you are just the messenger here.
I just did RFK on my low level druid that i'm leveling, at that point he was around level 35, and the boss mobs in RFK had 60.000 HEALTH let me point out that an average player at this level is doing 100 - 150 DPS (200+ if they are fully decked in heirlooms) i can safely say this group i was with would never have made the dungeon without my boomy doing close to 300 DPS and even me pushing that much the boss fights took upwards of 5 to 6 minutes that is neither rewarding or fun in anyway.

This has to be fixed.
I just talked to a Game Master. He confirmed that they are fixing this and it doesn't need a server restart as it can be fixed any day within the next week altough he didn't set a deadline.

Also he confirmed that the scaling went wrong and the quests, mob/hp, dungeons, etc are all dead slow and not intended to be so.
25/07/2018 16:27Posted by Scuranotte
I just talked to a Game Master. He confirmed that they are fixing this and it doesn't need a server restart as it can be fixed any day within the next week altough he didn't set a deadline.

Also he confirmed that the scaling went wrong and the quests, mob/hp, dungeons, etc are all dead slow and not intended to be so.


I love this GameMaster better answer..
let's hope that (sperem)
Change the xp gain for 60-80 or I'm never resubcribing and moving on with my life. It's not even funny anymore. Fix it.
Here is how i see it after leveling over 50 chars over years. This is horrible. Each mob takes 20+ seconds to kill. I decided to level nightborne to finish last allied race armor i lack and i must say it is horrible. From lvl 20 to 52 changed. Mobs take ages to kill. My spells barily do anything to them. 3k hp mobs and spells doing 100-200 damage. Then i logged my other alt wich is in outland. It is even worse. Please either give us back exp potions wich you took for no reason in legion or reduce exp needed to level and make us do more damage. I understand some people are new to game and that they should see whole leveling exp but i think even they will say NOP screw this after seeing how boring and repetitive it is. Even having full heirlooms doesn't help. I have seen and done all these quests so many times. Just let us speed level our bloody alts. This is horrible. In all 11 years of playing i never had less motivation to level at all coz how annoying it is.
It´s almost as bad as Vanilla leveling, is this intended so people to prepare people for Vanilla Server ?
25/07/2018 16:27Posted by Scuranotte
I just talked to a Game Master. He confirmed that they are fixing this and it doesn't need a server restart as it can be fixed any day within the next week altough he didn't set a deadline.

Also he confirmed that the scaling went wrong and the quests, mob/hp, dungeons, etc are all dead slow and not intended to be so.


Still doesn't answer their complete lack of communication or the elephant in the room as to why something this broken went past a lot of people at Blizzard on to the live server.
25/07/2018 17:06Posted by Dalker
It´s almost as bad as Vanilla leveling, is this intended so people to prepare people for Vanilla Server ?


No this is a side effect of having a automated process for stat squish, last time they squished they did it by hand this time around it was a program and it did it a bit too well and now they have to spend the next 3 weeks fixing everything the program messed up.
We now are to the point where peoples grind Pet Battle instead of leveling : https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/91srxg/with_all_the_complaints_recently_on_how_leveling/

Blizzard, the moment where peoples think it's a better use of their time to mindlessly play a castrated version of pokemon is a better alternative than the piss poor "leveling" we have now, is the moment your team need to re-evaluate your priorities!
25/07/2018 17:12Posted by Ultratech
25/07/2018 17:06Posted by Dalker
It´s almost as bad as Vanilla leveling, is this intended so people to prepare people for Vanilla Server ?


No this is a side effect of having a automated process for stat squish, last time they squished they did it by hand this time around it was a program and it did it a bit too well and now they have to spend the next 3 weeks fixing everything the program messed up.


So because it's presumably an automated process you don't need to test your software before you make it available to your customers?

If someone doesn't know Blizzard or any of their products and you'd tell him about the current mess he might infer it's a small indie studio making rookie mistakes.
Blizzard you are aware of that you are not indie company and you should have a lot of resources to fix this faster, right? There's really a lot to be fixed and it's not the speed and quality that people expect. It's really not that hard to fly through some zones and check HP of mobs. There are literally mobs in Northrend that have 12k HP where mobs in Legion have like 5k. Are you seriously relying only on bug reports from players? That's ridiculous
780 posts and counting... Yet they dont give a flying F
25/07/2018 17:20Posted by Galaxik
780 posts and counting... Yet they dont give a flying F


They never cared anyway sadly.It has been 8 days since patch and nothing was done.
25/07/2018 17:19Posted by Shorty
Blizzard you are aware of that you are not indie company and you should have a lot of resources to fix this faster, right? There's really a lot to be fixed and it's not the speed and quality that people expect. It's really not that hard to fly through some zones and check HP of mobs. There are literally mobs in Northrend that have 12k HP where mobs in Legion have like 5k. Are you seriously rely only on bug reports from players? That's ridiculous


Comparing Blizzard with an indie company is a direct insult to indie companies.
25/07/2018 17:21Posted by Dellerium
25/07/2018 17:20Posted by Galaxik
780 posts and counting... Yet they dont give a flying F


They never cared anyway sadly.It has been 8 days since patch and nothing was done.


This is not only for leveling. This is for everything.

What they seem not to understand is that the only reason they can feed they family is because of players money. We are giving money for fun they are creating that fun for us but for some reason they are also removing it and totally ignoring us. I mean they dont ignore silly things like: "Cloud in Highmountain was bugged it was small now it is fixed it will be bigger cloud we apologize for this and we will listen to our players more" .

This is like if you order custom clothing you want it to be as you want it to be and you pay for it not the other way around.
Whenever I try to pull myself together to level again, it's a complete !@#$fest that has me quitting the whole game after 5 minutes. The damage I do is the equivalent of flinging wet spaghetti through a hallway, not to mention the fact that I don't even see the XP bar moving as reward (if I even survive one mob).

Absolutely ridiculous. I've been a Blizzard games player (WoW mostly, of course) for a long damn time and I've not once seen something like this just staying in game for over a week without anything being done about it.

EDIT: Would be cool if once it's fixed, Blizz decides to give us a level boost, some game time, a free mount, I don't know. Anything that says "sorry we shat on you guys, who pay for our income.".