what are you guys on about ?
we still can kill an old god alone, just a bit harder lol
if you defeat a titan it mean ur lvl 110 and all old raids before WoD are soloable except those that need special mechanism needing more than 1 person.
anyway Leveling is as easy as it was before 8.0 patch now. even easier for me tbh. much easier and more rewarding.
i did not use any trick like asking someone to boost me or keep repeating Kara trash farm, i was questing and queue for dungeons and leveling.
after 8 it got bad but fixed in less than a week, now it's actually easier for me to level up than before 8.
I go do Questing/mine/herb and BGs now !
specially BGs, even tho it's not any shocking unbalance EXP, but its a decent EXP u get, and first win of the day is double EXP.
and God ! It's so good helping me learn my class in pvp, coz in Dungeons or outside world, u never learn ur class that well unless u reach max level. but now in BGs i learning my class very well and MOST importantly, although it's less than max level, but u still get honor ! and it's account-wide honor ! so u progress ur main while u are BGing on ur Alt ! at the same time learning ur class ! ( and once in a while get a BoA medal of honor for some Xmog or whatever u like )
It's way better for me than before pre-patch, Thanks Bliz !
28/07/2018 17:39Posted by Sky28/07/2018 17:37Posted by Dragonmireya that is what goal from blizz.. they keep said to people more focus at story. i dont think they will change xp system.
Anyone who wants to experience the story of Warcraft, should not play the game but read the book.
i am agree with you. i do not know why Blizz wanted that. but honest most of people want just focus until max lvl then can play dungeon/raid/mystic/pvp stuffs.
I would like to do an experiment to show how poor is the opinion of those who thinks the 10 years old outdated content is still relevant.
Freeze this game as it is right now. No new contents, no new updates, just the stuff we have online at the moment. Forever.
1-2 months and 80% of the users will just uninstall WoW and play something else.
Old content is old.
Try to watch the same movie (that you didn't like, perhaps) everytime you want to watch a new one, and let me know how FUNNY and RELEVANT it is.
Freeze this game as it is right now. No new contents, no new updates, just the stuff we have online at the moment. Forever.
1-2 months and 80% of the users will just uninstall WoW and play something else.
Old content is old.
Try to watch the same movie (that you didn't like, perhaps) everytime you want to watch a new one, and let me know how FUNNY and RELEVANT it is.
28/07/2018 17:40Posted by Gattemosswhat are you guys on about ?
we still can kill an old god alone, just a bit harder lol
if you defeat a titan it mean ur lvl 110 and all old raids before WoD are soloable except those that need special mechanism needing more than 1 person.
anyway Leveling is as easy as it was before 8.0 patch now. even easier for me tbh. much easier and more rewarding.
i did not use any trick like asking someone to boost me or keep repeating Kara trash farm, i was questing and queue for dungeons and leveling.
after 8 it got bad but fixed in less than a week, now it's actually easier for me to level up than before 8.
I go do Questing/mine/herb and BGs now !
specially BGs, even tho it's not any shocking unbalance EXP, but its a decent EXP u get, and first win of the day is double EXP.
and God ! It's so good helping me learn my class in pvp, coz in Dungeons or outside world, u never learn ur class that well unless u reach max level. but now in BGs i learning my class very well and MOST importantly, although it's less than max level, but u still get honor ! and it's account-wide honor ! so u progress ur main while u are BGing on ur Alt ! at the same time learning ur class ! ( and once in a while get a BoA medal of honor for some Xmog or whatever u like )
It's way better for me than before pre-patch, Thanks Bliz !
finally someone understand it well..
28/07/2018 17:41Posted by Dragonmirei am agree with you. i do not know why Blizz wanted that. but honest most of people want just focus until max lvl then can play dungeon/raid/mystic/pvp stuffs.
Because that's where everyone is and the actual game starts (for most of the players atleast).
28/07/2018 17:41Posted by HermajestyI would like to do an experiment to show how poor is the opinion of those who thinks the 10 years old outdated content is still relevant.
Freeze this game as it is right now. No new contents, no new updates, just the stuff we have online at the moment. Forever.
1-2 months and 80% of the users will just uninstall WoW and play something else.
Old content is old.
Try to watch the same movie (that you didn't like, perhaps) everytime you want to watch a new one, and let me know how FUNNY and RELEVANT it is.
And that is the classic crowd in a nutshell.
Because transmogs exist and people do not want to get groups up for irrelevant content..
So people want the transmogs. But unfortunately the content is irrelevant, dang.
Let me think this for a second... Hmmmm. But does that not make the content relevant after all...?
28/07/2018 17:40Posted by Gattemosswhat are you guys on about ?
we still can kill an old god alone, just a bit harder lol
if you defeat a titan it mean ur lvl 110 and all old raids before WoD are soloable except those that need special mechanism needing more than 1 person.
Nope my Shaman cannot kill Yogg now but before prepatch he can. He is 90 level. So that is probably Issue but why he shoud be even more stronger when Yogg is just a bug?
28/07/2018 17:43Posted by Ashron
Because transmogs exist and people do not want to get groups up for irrelevant content..
So people want the transmogs. But unfortunately the content is irrelevant, dang.
Let me think this for a second... Hmmmm. But does that not make the content relevant after all...?
Can you go to Legion zones with raid gear of molten core and do good damage?
There you have your answer if it is relevant or not.`
As I said, if you want it relevant: get a raid up of the same level, do the content. Easy solution without ruining the entire playerbase's fun.
You want to play "accordingly to the lore"? Go for it tiger! But let us play the way WE want! STOP TRYING TO IMPOSE YOUR PERSONAL VISION OF WHAT IS FUN TO THE REST OF US!
28/07/2018 17:43Posted by Ashron
Because transmogs exist and people do not want to get groups up for irrelevant content..
So people want the transmogs. But unfortunately the content is irrelevant, dang.
Let me think this for a second... Hmmmm. But does that not make the content relevant after all...?
You are stupid? People don't want go with other people on transmgo run because other people will take they precious. Players are like Gollum they really love they precious.
28/07/2018 17:43Posted by AshronLet me think this for a second... Hmmmm. But does that not make the content relevant after all...?
If you want to raid Molten Core with 40 people again, join any of the Project 60 guilds and do your thing.
As soon as you get your transmog piece you probably won't set another foot in there again. See? It's obsolete again.
Greenwood trickster hit for an absurd amount of damage after trickster ability(if they transform into you) solar wrath for 8,8k and lunar strike for the same amount at level 87,i have bug report,with all the bug report i have submit this patch i hope blizz send me some money in my bank.
https://imgur.com/a/1jKg5KU
https://imgur.com/a/1jKg5KU
well made it through 60-80 and now half way pandaria. i dont get how some can say pandaria is 3-4 hours. its at least as slow as the 60-80 part, just double the levels :p . i leveled most with pvp and questing (sometimes dungeons). overall its not so bad from the zone experience; was finally able to finish howling fjord without outleveling it too fast. after that one zone i was done with 20 levels, somehow (oO). pandarian dungeons are nicer, because they are short - at least some).
the exp gain in pvp is quite nice while winning. dungeon exp is less imho. i would say its fine like it is now in regard of experiencing a nice story. level length is fine and overall felt the same from 20 to pandaria. of course lower levels felt quick (: . i would say if they nerf wod experience its over the course of all expansions quite the same. i hope they nerf wod after im through *g*
for those who enjoy the adventure and stories it is a nice mix with the exp we get at the moment.
PS: im looking forward to the classic server cryers if they keep it like back then XD
the exp gain in pvp is quite nice while winning. dungeon exp is less imho. i would say its fine like it is now in regard of experiencing a nice story. level length is fine and overall felt the same from 20 to pandaria. of course lower levels felt quick (: . i would say if they nerf wod experience its over the course of all expansions quite the same. i hope they nerf wod after im through *g*
for those who enjoy the adventure and stories it is a nice mix with the exp we get at the moment.
PS: im looking forward to the classic server cryers if they keep it like back then XD
28/07/2018 17:40Posted by Gattemoss
i did not use any trick like asking someone to boost me or keep repeating Kara trash farm, i was questing and queue for dungeons and leveling.
after 8 it got bad but fixed in less than a week, now it's actually easier for me to level up than before 8.
I go do Questing/mine/herb and BGs now !
specially BGs, even tho it's not any shocking unbalance EXP, but its a decent EXP u get, and first win of the day is double EXP.
"I did not use any trick but I queued for dungeons and BG's. I also used mining and collected herbs."
Which leveling range was this and which class were you? Because most of the problems spark of 60-80. It isn't about being difficult, it's about being way too slow. For some classes it is easier to blast through zones while for others it's absolutely terrible and slow. Let's say someone (like me) doesn't have interest in BG's. Now what?
What if I am a new player that doesn't know about bg's/mining/herbs? No heirlooms. It's an awful slow drag. Many new players simply quit because it takes too long. 120 levels. In Cataclysm they buffed the experience because the leveling gap was getting higher. Now they broke it and now we have twice the amount. Just no, people are not complaining about it being hard, they complain because right now bg's/battle pet battles/mining/herbing rewards more exp than questing and dungeons. While dungeons take around 1 hour to complete and you get like 15% exp. Questing? Slow drag. 3 hours questing for half a bar. No thank you.
Peoples like you are so tiring...28/07/2018 17:49Posted by Hunhoim looking forward to the classic server cryers if they keep it like back then XD
28/07/2018 17:41Posted by HermajestyI would like to do an experiment to show how poor is the opinion of those who thinks the 10 years old outdated content is still relevant.
Freeze this game as it is right now. No new contents, no new updates, just the stuff we have online at the moment. Forever.
1-2 months and 80% of the users will just uninstall WoW and play something else.
Old content is old.
Try to watch the same movie (that you didn't like, perhaps) everytime you want to watch a new one, and let me know how FUNNY and RELEVANT it is.
Whether it was your intention or not, you have just given ample justification and rock solid reasoning behind Blizzard's decision to make the game more difficult with regards to leveling.
Slow the game down and people won't get bored as quickly. It is very sound logic.
28/07/2018 17:45Posted by Sky28/07/2018 17:43Posted by AshronLet me think this for a second... Hmmmm. But does that not make the content relevant after all...?
If you want to raid Molten Core with 40 people again, join any of the Project 60 guilds and do your thing.
As soon as you get your transmog piece you probably won't set another foot in there again. See? It's obsolete again.
Hey you got the point! :) The content is obsolete as soon as there is nothing to be gained anymore, in this case the transmogs. But why the rush to make this content obsolete as quickly as possible? And I'm not saying MC should require 40 players anymore, maybe 2-3 to be efficient with the loot.
27/07/2018 15:31Posted by Nemmar
Leveling has always been a tutorial and i think there is value in it. but do we really need 120 levels of tutorial?
The classic questing system with menial quests of loot X and kill Y number of mobs, is just not very fun anymore. The main story quests, wich result in cut-scenes and cinematic events are still engaging though.
I couldn't agree more, I hate quests for the sake of quests and they are one of the biggest offputting archaic "features" of MMOs for me. IMO quests should exist purely for storytelling and tutorial purposes. In WoW and other MMOs too many quests are meaningless chores that serve only as a barrier to endgame and a way of hiding a lack of content.
I don't expect the same level of storytelling as the Witcher 3 but even Blade & Soul offered an enjoyable questing experience through a good and engaging story, which was littered with cinematic cutscenes. The last time I enjoyed a zone in WoW was Uldum, which had decent and humorous storylines with Harrison Jones and Schottz.
I usually force myself through questing to reach endgame knowing I can then stop once I reach it. The never-ending grind of world quests was a huge reason why I stopped playing Legion during Nighthold.
I'm currently leveling a charcter in WoW and am choosing to sit in 20-35 min queues for dungeons rather than tortue myself with quests.
28/07/2018 17:56Posted by Ashron28/07/2018 17:45Posted by Sky...
If you want to raid Molten Core with 40 people again, join any of the Project 60 guilds and do your thing.
As soon as you get your transmog piece you probably won't set another foot in there again. See? It's obsolete again.
Hey you got the point! :) The content is obsolete as soon as there is nothing to be gained anymore, in this case the transmogs. But why the rush to make this content obsolete as quickly as possible? And I'm not saying MC should require 40 players anymore, maybe 2-3 to be efficient with the loot.
28/07/2018 17:44Posted by Slerk
As I said, if you want it relevant: get a raid up of the same level, do the content. Easy solution without ruining the entire playerbase's fun.