If you don’t time, then you lose rating to prevent boosting giving you a false long term mmr. In the end this will be a numbers game, where you can get unlucky, but I think it will improve gamequality and people actually get to play the game. Also, it will really punish people, who leave timeable keys often, and they will be stuck at low mmr
I queue for a dungeon, Complete it in time with my group, then lose rating?
Ahh i see you edited your reply.
So if i dont time it i lose rating, and assumably this can happen on repeat so i can end up back at 0 rating? Which means i have to start back at +2.
And i have literally zero control over this because i have to use the automated queue which can group me with any old random player and comp?
Its kinda ironic that he doesnt realise how stupid it sounds in context of m+ 
Yes, and if you leave, you get negative rating. Welcome to Mythic Minus
Jokes aside, yeah, there could be some thresholds or protection. Maybe you just lose a little bit rating, and you gain more than you lose? Maybe you lose nothing, if someone leaves before the timer, and the leaver gets -100? If you keep failing every key, at some point it’s a common denumerator issue though…
Great so you want to put my gameplay time at the mercy of 4 other people that i didnt even pick…
At least if i invite someone to a key and they screw it up i can just go do the same key again but with your system i could have my whole gameplay wrecked by a group of people i dont know, didnt pick and would not have chosen to group with anyway!
That sounds mighty appealing for sure…
Ah yes. Creating a bunch of algorithms, “fail saves”, and sort of other systems and subsystems for some LFG system just to avoid the most awful, unspeakable thing ever… talking with something and actually establishing a network…
And yes yes yes. No doubt you got a serious reason for your “people allergy”. Heard them all already on the forums so dont bother to write that in your reply…
Make your own key.
If you check graph right now for EU you will see that 2620 (which lets be honest is really close to 2700) is top 10% players, which is nothing special. Pretty much everyone with gear and some knowledge of mechanics can reach that level.
Good players are top 5%, maybe even at top 2% which is 2900+
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“Average” is half way up, better than average is normally called “good”. While this has some subjectivity, top 10% of any population is by most measures better than “good”.
And no, pretty much anyone with gear and knowledge of mechanics can’t reach that level. Otherwise more people would be there as a %
Statistics like these don’t take boosting into account too
why do
why do u tink players buy boost cant be bother pugs honest pug are pretty poo boost dont play casino play hope best players good but other way community discord cen u form group but most time thos cummunity are on na wich bit problem also most group are full cant get intro good group wich also suck left just pug ye most just cbe buy boost sad but well better pug
I don’t really think you need to find a community for keys until you go really high that you need to find a set group to play together. At least up to 21s/22s I like you find many keys at LF all the time. I honestly don’t know how many would be interested to try and push for 20s, that late into the season that if you run couple times the dungeon to understand mechanics you are carried by ilvl alone. Most of the times a guildie can help them faster than try and make a group.
A lot of people buy boosts just because they have more money than time. They might also be AH goblins that want transmogs/portals/mount but they are very bad pve players and do only gold making.
She is very smart and has a good take about soloqueue:
yeh but the issue is exactly what second comment says:
We need 20% tanks 20% healers 60% dps players. Right now we have 8-12% of tanks same healers and rest dps. Tanks and healers won’t use it as they have more options and want to control what group they are into.
We have seen it at overwatch. 90% of people wanted to play dps, even people that queued as tank wanted to play dps. We had a role queue eventually that had like 1min wait time for healers, instant for tanks and 10 mins for dps. What is the difference if you end up have to wait 40 mins in the queue to do a key -btw whose key is going to be? and would you risk your key getting downgraded with randoms that have no clue about mechanics even they have timed previous level?-.
Blizzard need to solve the issue of people refusing to play tanks and healers. Also healer is fine if your party are not idiots. Your job is not to compensate for bad players, nor to be able to heal them to full every global because they can’t avoid damage. Healers exist just they don’t join bad groups.
Reality is they cannot solve it without nerfing and gutting m+ into the ground.
Untill its chalenging people will always choose easiest least demanding role of dps.
She misses the only point that matters. Automated MM pushes the responsibility on blizzard. After 1 week the whole forum would be on fire because 90% of groups fail and blizz would have to either remove it or nerf M+.
And to be clear. SoloQ wouldn’t reduce the wait time for DPS, it would equalize it. Meaning the cream of the crop who gets instant invites right now would have to wait, idk, 20 minutes, just like those who barely get invited once per hour now.
A lot of people are just straight up dumb as well.
I sat in a group earlier as prot paladin, looking to do +18 neltharion’s lair.
5 minutes after I joined we had a disc priest that applied to the group, looked completely fine to invite for me.
Declined.
We had a mistweaver apply after another 2 minutes, looked completely fine to invite for me.
Declined.
Resto druid applies like 3 minutes later.
Declined.
LIKE, BRO. JUST INVITE A HEALER. If we fail it’s gonna be because you guys screw up, not because the healer is the “wrong” class.
Then I saw the leader declining yet another healer and I just left the group.
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It sets off huge red flags for me if I get the feeling the leader would decline himself if he signed up.
Like dude if you think you ain’t good enough for this then I ain’t wanna be here.
They dont ignore everything like you are suggesting, even if you hate the game go somewhere else, and ignore the forums really. You are the typical troll.
Tell me when you needed to wait for 45 min on an invite? Or u Qeu for a key thats way out of your range, or u Qeu for a +22 and u even didnt do a +19 yet or something.