Why the hell do you need to be experienced for Gruul’s lair? Not only has it been nerfed but isn’t the only real mechanic ‘spread out?’ Like literally a chimp could do that, it is so easy.
And people wonder why players are leaving this game - they can’t get into a raid group because of stupid elitism like this!
It’s obvously a power thing - someone has a crappy day at work and then little acts like denying people Gruul make them feel a tiny tiny bit better. What awful people.
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but isn’t the only real mechanic ‘spread out?’
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That’s the experience required. It’s not much, but if you dont know that you can cause damage to the raid. Nothing more to it.
What are you one of these people? You don’t need to be experienced at anything to understand ‘spread out’ that is just following a basic instruction a 5 year old could understand. I’m saying that this kind of elitism - like the people who leave a dungeon group after one wipe - is just disgusting.
No but I wouldnt bother reacting to it either and make a forum post about it. The guy obviously just wants people who know what to do, it’s not a high bar to reach.
on my last gruul i intentionally tried to kill people during the shatter, did 7k dmg while sitting literally ontop of someone (he didnt die). yes it has been nerfed, but that doesnt mean that a random animal cant kill people especially when he doesnt know what he is doing
I’m just going to lie next time and say I have done it even though I haven’t, problem solved.
I don’t see any issue, this is a normal thing in all MMOs, if it’s a quick pug run for gearing alts or whatever then you will always want experienced people, if you have not done it before then you should be looking for a training run in a guild, not trying to pug a shattrath loot farm.
Yes, you would probably be fine since it is easy, but even so, the group leader is not doing anything wrong in my eyes.
If you don’t like other groups, you can also form your own.
I don’t see what’s wrong with wanting someone who has been there before, or at least knows the tactics.
It’s their group they could ask for anything they want. I find your attitude a little disturbing OP.
not a bad idea. watch a video and everything is explained, content is easy.
if i can succesfully raid lead ssc with just watching some crappy 2 min videos per boss, then you can raid gruul without facking up from a similar video
The amount of entitelment of the OP is over 9k. Experience matters in life that’s all there is to it. Even if a “monkey could do it” it doesn’t mean that it could do it ON THE FIRST FCKNIGN TRY. Please stop whining on the forums and start forming your own progress pug, what a waste of breath.
I find it more disturbing that some people don’t take an issue with it and think it’s fine when it’s clearly bad for the game. It’s the same as when you get people looking for a job and they can’t get a job because everyone is asking for ‘experience’ even for jobs like mopping the floor or washing dishes. I have actually calmed down a bit/eaten since I made the topic so I’m not as emotional now but I still think it’s ridiculous asking for experience to do braindead content.
Again your entitelment is reaching the height of Mt. Everest. Dishwashing and floor mopping aren’t that easy and it’s kinda disrespectful of you to portrait them as such. You haven’t worked a single day of your life so you don’t know the value of experience then, I assume?
Please just stop with your cringeworthy statements. If the content is braindead go ahead and form a pug yourself, can’t be that hard right?
Also Maulgar is probably harder than Gruul itself and you are going to do that with no mage tank etc right? Ridiculous.
Why should people who know what they are doing and gearing alts take you into a pug when you have nothing to offer? Please explain it to me.
If you can’t find a guild or form your own pug to experience the “braindead content”, well then… bad luck zug brain.
I think you are a troll so not replying, as if you need experience to wash dishes or mop a floor my God what planet are you on. If you went up to a dishwasher/floor moping and said to them ‘‘your job is really hard, where did you get experience to wash dishes like this’’ they would laugh in your face or find you patronising - you come across as the one who has never worked a day before or you would know this. Not saying they are not difficult jobs you have to stand for long periods of time but seriously. Get over yourself.
You would do well to heed your own advice.
Except it’s not bad for the game, that’s just your opinion.
It’s not braindead content. Groups still wipe even when they have experience.
It’s amazing how many people get things like that wrong, washing pots or cleaning in a commercial environment is not the same as doing them at home. Commercial dish washing machines are different and more dangerous than your home machine.
They actually teach how to clean hotels rooms as a course. I’m not saying it’s difficult but it requires you to do things differently and follow the HSE guidelines.
Gruul may be easy but the boss at the start is more difficult. That’s where most wipes happen.
That’s why you find a guild. Plenty of guilds are recruiting right now… and likely this will never stop, since the game is bleeding players. Pugs on the other hand are often unreliable, elitist, toxic and even straight up incompetent. They can work for alts but your main should run with your guild for the best possible experience.
What next? They start asking if you know tactics for bosses?
But try raid leading 24 people who have done it before versus 24 people who know nothing. Just Google it and research the tactics and say you know what you are doing. It doesn’t matter if you have killed it or not, but if you don’t know tactics then we have a problem.
Kneckbeard Elitism is rife in this game, just find a good group. They are out there
I’m the mage tank on King Maulgar’s add Krosh Firehand, i know first hand that if you don’t get past Maulgar and especially Krosh Firehand with a living mage tank on him that you won’t get to see Gruul at all.
You need a prepared mage who knows how to deal with Krosh and 1 or 2 healers who know that the mage needs a lot of healing. You need 2 warlocks at least to enslave the fel hunter that Olm the Summoner summons who know on which add to put it.
So where are you with your spread out only tactic when you don’t show the awareness of the difficulty still in place on King Maulgar? And yes, he may also have been nerfed but a mage tank still doesn’t survive without over 10K hp. If you have all mages dead, you still need to know how to deal with the shield Krosh uses on himself.
Everyone can demand anything if its their group. If you dont like the rules dont join its simple. You are not paying their subs so you dont decide how they manage their party. You can always create your own.