But lgbtq is more the just that its a wide field of topics with a connecting idea
I cant agree with this.
Unless youre refering to only those who subscribe to a specific subculture.
But id wager that actually excludes most people who are lgbt.
whenever a new social labelling for a new group gets famous (bisexuals, metrosexuals, pansexuals, vegetarians, vegans, wokes etc.) there are always tons of âwanna beâ attention seekers, who normally have no other qualifications or qualities, define themselves as that new âthingâ and âadvertise it and themâ trying to stand out as an individual.
so, this is another case of âi am special ! look at me!â incident of a regular person and nothing more.
Best wishes for this <3 May the hatred fizzle out. Ignore the idiots. Continue being fabulous!
Youâd think joining a social group for a common theme is a bad thing LOLOL
Do you know whatâs appalling? That such a large group of people cannot understand absolutely basic concepts:
If you, as a group label yourselves (LGBTQ++) , proceed to lock yourselves in a box - and from inside that box you keep demanding special treatment and bulling anyone that doesnât give it to you - You will never be accepted
You have a different sexual orientation or any gender unconformity?
STAND UP FOR IT - AND jOIN SOCIETY AS AN EQUAL. Show youâre not different, that youâre a human being, that youâre incredible as you are.
Thatâs the only way anything will change for the better.
Hiding behind your own rules, own group, own pronouns and labels wonât ever do you any good or help you with acceptance.
I see LGBTQ people and the racial Woke community overusing words like âequalityâ.
But the way I see it people like ME are advocating equality - all youâre all doing is asking for special treatment and rules while expecting acceptance.
I wouldnât call it appalling at all. Just pointless. I understand that they want equal rights and I absolutely and fully support that. I also understand that there are bigoted people who will try to deny those rights, but that will never change. Hateful and angry people arenât going anywhere.
Going out of oneâs way to be unnecessarily expressive about what they identify as doesnât do anyone any good. Itâs essentially trying to make people care about your label when they previously wouldnât care at all and would just treat you normally.
Unless the intent of a community is to fight for rights that donât already exist but should, I see absolutely no point in these communities.
Absolutely agree with every word.
I know I said Iâll stop there but I answer this one thing.
Theyâre not isolating themselves.
Thatâs like saying every club on the planet has members that are isolationists.
In reality they will be no different to any other guild in WoW.
A social group with shared common themes/interests? Heresy.
Only we are not talking about football.
We are talking about something that has an absolutely greater and more serious impact on the lives of people.
Gender and sexually arenât hobbies, this is a poor comparison.
I mean, thatâs usually is what it means.
âEveryoneâs welcome, as long as they align with our viewsâ.
Has been the mantra of mankind since the dawn of timeâŚ
OP said
But weâve BOTH established that, in fact, not everyone would be welcome.
So we BOTH agree this is a porky pie, so maybe check your logic, big man?
The common interest is WoW. The dividing factor that contradicts the idea that everyone is welcome is the focus on the LGBTQ+ community.
Congratulations, weâve established you and OP are indeed âFully gassedâ.
then horde are not allowed?
This is possibly the best and most well placed comment I ever seen during my time on this forum.
Edit: Iâm still laughing and thinking about the âFor the Alliance!!!â Unicorn meme.
Iâm in total agreement with everything you, Gabriela, Deadguy and Annesathiel have said.
I have to be careful when I get involved in these topics, as people try to get me banned usually when my views donât align with theirs - as you may recall from one of the last topics
Itâs truly heartwarming to see everybody become the âtrueâ advocates of equality the moment LGBTQ+ is brought up.
I wish you the best of luck with your community, but I donât think the general forums were the best place to advertise it unfortunately.
I donât think the OP means any harm. My sister who is gay isnât a fan of the OP type of message either due to mainly the reasons Deadguy brought up, obviously this will defer from person to person. However I also understand why some people who fit into LGBTQ tend to feel more relaxed in a place OP has listed.
Iâm not gay so who am I to judge what it feels like to say in an average every day guild âjust going out for dinner with my boyfriendâ (Iâm a guy) Maybe itâs terrifying for some of them to be open due to homophobes. I donât think the OP meant any harm but I mostly agree with Deadguy points.
I would like to think any GM who isnât homophobic/bigot would instantly kick anyone who was homophobic out of their guild.
It is different though. Itâs like creating a menâs community where everybody is welcome, or a tall people community. Just like being LGBT, those are things youâre born with, not interests you developed over time and wish to pursue.
If you label a community for a very specific subset of people, and then say everybodyâs welcome, why even label it in the first place? Most communities have very simple rule to handle this: everybody is welcome, unless they start being sexist, racist, homophobic, another ist of phobic, or in general being jerks. I think thatâs perfectly reasonable.
Going to share an example of any of us being anti equality anywhere else, or just ran out of sensible arguments?
I believe they were more talking about the whole
âMY way of thinking about the LGBTQ+ community is right!! Not yours!! Not allowed your community!!!â