Limit Max complains about WoW gearing

The profession system is actually very good in DF.

The Infusions that you get allow you to Craft upto 418 gear. Some of the Embellished items you create are actually Best in slot items.

If you don’t know anyone who can create them, then you will easily find someone via the Trade Chat.

It doesn’t take much to level up a Crafting Profession to craft at least 1 item. You just need to plan what you create.

As someone who is actively crafting items for people in the game. It has been one of the most enjoyable aspects for Dragonflight so far. My friends list has grown exponentially over the past few weeks.

Yes, it can be complicated at a first glance, I appreciate that. But once you get used it it, it’s like any other part of the game.

Well we managed to create a 402 piece, but i think we talk about different things.
It is fine. I just stick to the things i do understand in the game. I am fine not understanding 90% of the game. Always has and always been. But these 418 is just for the pro’s of the game. It is hard to simpathize. That is all i am saying. But since the pro’s play a different game anyway and i will never mix with them, just hand them over anything they want. No problem for me.

I have to agree here. I read the tweet to mean from the perspective of a more casual player or a player who has not got the option of his guild boosting him in 20’s, mythic raid or even heroic.

I think spend 2 to buy 1 Concentrated Primal is a bit much. I think maybe Spend 5 to buy 4 is a better balance. 20% tax because after all you only get 1 per run, so at best your still having to spend 3 hours roughly to farm 10 (which would then become 8) for an alt. And that is to craft 1 single item at 418.

Again I think his tweet was more about the more regular joe playing than the top 0.01%, but I can see how people cannot see past the name or stigma given to them.

Why does he think he needs 100 16+ dungeons? He can’t make 10 crafted pieces at 418 ilvl unless he also gets extraordinarily lucky with spark drops.

I mean sure, I’d rather just win more items from running keys.

But having the crafting system feels useful just adds value to the game and encourages participation in the wider game.

Crafted items are not compulsory like they were in Shadowlands, so you can play without them. But they’re there if you want to enjoy it.

I feel this is what is currently missing from M+ and 2 chesting or even 3 chesting they keys. The rewards should be much more and guaranteed for the effort and the success. Yes I know the out cry will be “then they will spam +2 till they get the item they want.” So be it! But you wont get the +421 item unless you spam the correct level.

the maount of people with like 1k score putting their 15/16 keys in lfg proves you to be completly wrong.

you can play just fine. sure you wont do +20 imidiately but that was never oging to happen .

you can always find 4 buddies and play on PTR. there you will have instant bis gear and you can go straight to 25 even :slight_smile:

Well, there is the 50 16+ dungeons for infusions, then most likely a ton of extra dungeons for trinkets ect.

Tbf, it does take a ridiculous amount of dungeons to get your alts semi ready, and bliz looking into how gearing your 2nd 3rd or 4th char could be made less tedious would only be a plus for all players on all skill levels imo.

This could be done in many ways, let us buy +2 gear boxes for valor that are BoA.
Let us send infusions between our chars.
Maybe have multiple infusions drop if you’re behind the curve so to say. We’re now in week w/e… who would it harm that 16+ now drops 3 of the thingies per dungeon instead of 1?

Oh wow he is mentioning something we already said a million times here in the forum.

:smiley: good good complain more so i can have free and good gear with less work
thanks MAX

I now have a new definition of “first world problem”. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, sucks at the low end too. It’s not that the gear is unattainable, just a lack of fun. Which is, I guess, finding the same thing as Limit Max in a very different environment.

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seems like you are all playing the wrong genre.

i get where this comes from - i really do - you all want to have 13 equly geared mains without putting in any effort ready 24/7 to instant jump into +20 and mythic raids because on this difficulty is fun for you

preferably in form of lobby based game like LoL where you can instantly zone in into dungeons and raids.

you dont want to play rpg - you want to play instance symulator.

Seriously, do you have any idea who you’re talking to? :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t even bother doing instances unless I need them for a quest, and I mean a quest that unlocks something, not just a reward.

What I’m missing is that this expansion is the worst experience in the open world., except maybe for Warlords. Maybe.

What I have in common with Max is that neither of us looks forward to what’s waiting for alts when they ding.

But when Max says it he just sounds like a billionaire complaining about the price of his next yacht.

And from reset, all anyone (at relatively high level) gearing an alt needs to do is get their friends to boost them to 2.4k rio and then spam low keys. The need to do 16+ keys to upgrade crafted items will be over.

back in bfa i ran 100 low level atal dazar to get my bis item titenforgen and i achieved that. I thought it was great, i think helping lower score guys back then was great. today there is 0 incentives to run a +12 or so if i can play 20+. its fun to ignore mechanics and just blast. but that is not enough for me to play lower keys. i want tf back

Yeah, but M+ doesn’t begin as a game when you’ve caught up. Catching up is a huge part of the game.

it really doesnt take that much . what it does take is playing consecutively for whole season . on my 2 alts im not even doing 4 m+ a week baring the first 2 weeks when i did 8 dungeonso n like 5-8 level to get some semi decent score to start and both are 400 and 402 itlv which is more then enough to run 16s on . had no problem tanking 16s/17s this week on my 402 VDH alt and both will likely end this season close to 415 i bet without any huge VP farm.

nah - you want to have instant gear on them the moment you hit 70. and this never works in season 1 - it does work in S2 and S3 though when after you were runign 18-20 previous seaosn you start season already geared and stright in 15s.

and thats what he is complaining about mostly. that he cant go straight from S4 of SL to 15s in S1 of Df.

its not catching up . its calle progress of your character.

and yes it requires a lot of effort - like most of things in life if you want to get good resoults.

for example i could spend this evening spaming more dungeons. but im going to gym - and tomorrow im going swimming. because i want to have my body in top shape.

everything comes with the price - for example i dont have 2500 score yet because im focusing more on irl - because i value it more but there was a season in SL when i decided that i have time for pushing so i pushed to 20s.

everyone in game would love to have 421 itlv on all alts. but its not gonna happen unless you work as a streamer .

incentive comes next week. you can take your 400 itlv alts to +2 boost random people and be 411 + by the end of next reset if you really want .

i wont lie - i think i may do it to some extent on my VDH (because on that i can carry anyone in +2 :stuck_out_tongue: ) just in case i decide that i may want to push for 20s before the end of season.

An none of your alts or even your main is geared… so not sure what value your comment brings to the discussion, is it quick to get ~400 ilvl? Yes, are you remotely geared to do the hardest content? No