One thing I will say, there are a lot more interesting ground mounts than flying ones.
Just wait until we get helium mount shoes as mount equipment and all will be good with the world.
The point is, that is not how our mind works. If I see a place, my natural instinct is to think “what is the most efficient way to get there”. we have evolved this way, to do things in the most efficient way to use less energy. This is why we use tools.
I use a knife to cut up a chicken rather than trying to claw at it with my fingernails.
If I see someone on the roof of the inn, If I can fly then I think oh, I could fly up there but that is as easy as pressing a button and takes zero skill so why would I even consider doing it. I wouldn’t even consider that climbing might be a fun challenge because that is no longer in my head as a viable means of traversal.
When you can fly, the way to any point in the game is a straight line. The whole map because a series of dots connected by straight lines. before flying, the map is a labyrinthine network of roads weaving through trees and hills with challenges in your way.
whats with you and that damn roof… why do you HAVE to get on it and then get upset about how flying makes it too easy?
are you a goat?
That is not how YOUR mind works. My mind works fine. If I see a low level on a building then I know he’ll have hopped up and around to get on top. I’ve also been playing this game since TBC and am well familiar with people getting on top of things, especially on a PvP realm. We do the same in raids when we are bored waiting on a break or while the lead sorts groups for encounters.
The entire player base does not need to suffer the removal of flying. We have a whole period when we can’t fly before pathfinder is possible.
Didn’t this happen in WoD? I didn’t play during that time but I read that they never wanted people flying in Draenor.
It is the only time I’ve seen significant numbers of players quit the game to the point they had to do a u turn and introduce pathfinder.
I can’t imagine the amount of work it would take to make a place as big as Draenor suitable for flying. But Blizz hopefully learned their lesson and won’t listen to the “remove flying it’s bad” group in the future.
As far as I’m aware it was already flight ready. We even had a garrison item to make us fly short term. We had Aviana’s feather too.
but I’m not suggesting removing it from everyone. I thought I made that clear?
And also, please consider if you are in boralus and see somoene on top of the inn, would you stop and consider that maybe they climbed? very unlikely, most people would assume they flew there. I can’t imagine anyone would think otherwise.
That was my point with my previous post where i suggested how I would react if everyone could fly from level 1.
So you want Blizzard to pick who can’t fly?
If you don’t want to fly you don’t have to, you can still use ground mounts.
No one can fly from level 1. They aren’t even going to be able to fly from level 1 in SL.
I would not notice someone on the roof of the Inn in Boralus whether flying was enabled or not. It’s not like the Inn in Goldshire for example.
why are you commenting but not reading the first post where I suggested this???
I already said. SHARDS.
But why would you want to separate the playerbase into 4 different shards?
I feel like we are not communicating at all.
I said IF people could fly from level 1.
ok let me quote my post.
Wouldn’t an optional “shard” have the same problem as choosing to/not to use a flying mount on a normie shard in the first place?
People will be driven to the path of least resistance all the same.
I think this is the biggest problem. It’s the same as those arguing for non flying in WM, it would just make WM very undesirable. Blizzard would have to offer huge incentives to get people to go non flying WM.
Having four versions of sharding would be seem impractical. WM-on Flying, WM-on Grounded, WM-off Flying, WM-off Grounded. Listing groups in the finder will become even longer xD like - Rustfeather CAMP WMon-Flying.
There is nothing stopping people not using flying mounts but very few are willing to disadvantage themselves in this way.
If you don’t want to fly, then don’t, I really don’t see the problem.
The start of every expansion is heaven for the people who like to be grounded.
Once Pathfinder II goes live it’s heaven for the people who like to fly.
It’s the compromise and as Ion pointed out, neither side is truly happy but it’s the only way they can do it.
You can make suggestions in game as well:-
You can mention your flying on/off sharding idea there too.
I do like ground mounts in Classic, but it is not like if Retail had only ground mounts it would be same good feeling. It wont, because the flying mounts are not the problem, the sharding is.
Some opt-in version between flying and ground mounts is as good as “if you don’t want to fly, then use ground mounts” and if you already aren’t doing it, then opt-in option will not have impact.