with holy light customization that will allow us to use the moon,it could be nice if elun wasn’t bad god because all the lore problem that elso can fix with the bronze dragons,everything about night elfs is sad
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if nelfs paladins have only blue abilityes and cannot be changed, then im 100% with this.
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Well, it is possible, as we experience a Night Elf during Legion in the Paladin Class Hall storyline, to accept and become a Paladin/Cleric. She is depicted as utilizing the light, not by Elune it seems.
First off, Elune has nothing to do with the light. Yes she is represented in the moon. and yes Priestesses of Elune use a more blue/white light. A Night elf paladin would not get their powers from Elune. but from their Faith in Elune. How a paladin works is pretty straight forward. and it works basically the Same for all paladin orders.
A paladin is the embodiment of what the light stands for. which is Tenacity, Compassion, Respect, and a heaping amount of Conviction to their cause.
For there to be a Paladin there needs to be an order, this might sound weird but so far each paladin, is directly tied to an order. (silver hand, blood knights, Hand of Argus, Argent dawn/crusade, Scarlet crusade, Sunwalkers, Prelates of Rezan) I don’t make the rules.
So for Night elf to form an order of Former Sentinels Empowered by (Elune’s) light, who fight to protect and serve their people, with tenacity, compassion and respect, makes a lot of sense after what happened in dark shore. The silver hand was formed after the Orcs laid waist to most of the eastern kingdoms. Blood knights, when the scourge destroyed their home. So for them to rise out of tragedy is on brand.
Night elf paladin could easily be worked into the game. they just need a little bit of story to lead them in.
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Actually, Delas Moonfang’s mission table ability is called “Seal of Elune”. So I assume she still gets her powers from Elune, just as a paladin now rather than a priestess.
So if you want to RP a night elf paladin, there’s lore precedent. But since Delas was explicitly called the first night elf to join the Silver Hand, their numbes are probably way too few to justify making this race-class combination available in-game.
(Also, it would require Blizzard to make moon-themed versions of all the paladin abilities just for this one combination, and we all know they’re too cheap to do that it would cost us a raid tier.)
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Perhaps but she’s being depicted as of the light. Maybe laziness, I don’t know.
Well, she’s the first official, we don’t know beyond that but yeah, only from there can it go forward.
As for themes, well, even Tauren only got slight changed in the story, else, nothing specific because the light can fill in for the sun.
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chance is, we get night elf paladin at some point, but with no special treatment
except maybe a line or two of lore about why they are paladins now, similar to tauren paladins, who from my memory are just sun-druids with a melee focus?
similar to tauren paladins, who from my memory are just sun-druids with a melee focus?
Well then you are misunderstanding it. Sunwalkers are no druids. never were. the first sunwalker was infact a Warrior. the one who told this warrior of the Ways of the light (from a tauren perspective) was a former druid.
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You can believe in the framework of light and wield it, while also pretending that it’s Elune’s powers granted. Just as you could call it “Seal of Maccies” if you had such faith in the big M.
Elune’s powers and blessings are traditionally arcane in nature. Her gift to the Kaldorei was the Well of Eternity, moonwells are filled with the well’s waters and Kaldorei temples depict Haidene holding up the basin in which she first received the waters of the well.
This was even represented in vanilla where the night elf racial priest ability dealt arcane damage.
It is 100% feasible for a newcomer/acolyte to misinterpret the Goddess and start wielding light, but they’d be perceived odd, strange and out of place. It definitely wouldn’t be traditional.
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If we get the paladin class for the race, I hope from lore POV they’re just essentially more armored clerics of Elune. For example in the Well of Eternity novels, the Priestesses of Elune were described as wearing heavier armor than cloth. An excerpt from one of the books:
In contrast to the previous times that they had met, the novice priestess of Elune—the Mother Moon—wore an outfit more befitting the way of war than the peace of the temple. Gone was her flowing, white robe. In its place was a form-fitting suit of armor with layered plates that allowed much mobility. The armor covered Tyrande from neck to foot, and over it, almost as an inconsistency, was a shimmering, gossamer cloak the color of moonlight. In the crook of her arm, the young priestess held a winged helmet that would protect the upper portion of her face as well.
To Malfurion, she looked more like the priestess of a war god
Would make it easier for people to portray battle priestesses IC.
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Night elf paladin, just need to have Faith in Elune and the light will answer. will it represent itself as blue/purple/white moon light? possibly. mechanically it would not of course.
The diety you are worshipping doesn’t need to be a Giver of light, it doesn’t have to be a deity at all. The Church of the holy light worships the concept of the holy light, the blood elves worship the light giving properties of the Sun well.
If Elune also represents something to the night elves that is inline with the Values of the light. they can wield it like any other.
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Issue there, they already exist. And you don’t have to go to the books for it; Priestess of the Moon in Warcraft3 was that archetype - though wielding arcane, of course, with the signature ability of starfall (of which a lesser ability was the vanilla priest racial). Tyrande retained that archetype, even the conjured owl.
The priest class is restrictive on the fantasy of a night elf priestess; if there was no equipment restriction, they’d be wearing mail (sentinel set) and fighting with bow & arrow.
Again, my question here is “Why?” There should be a proper reason for a character to abandon their culture and immerse in something completely foreign, just to do the same exact thing (except with a hammer and not a bow).
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Why not make a things only for nelfs like the green Fire for wlocks?
Just that they can’t change
To me, it’s not about abandoning their culture and immersing in something completely foreign. Night elves have used swords and lances in the past, I don’t think it’s entirely against their culture to use them in the modern day depending on the need of the circumstance. But true, the Hunter class is a good fit for the battle priestess fantasy as well.
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I do have to ask.
Why do you talk about the “values” of the Light and claim the humans “Three Virtues” are them? The draenei vindicators, tauren sunwalkers, zandalari prelates and elven blood knights do not follow the Three Virtues.
I think most people that want a night elf paladin want it because OOCly, it’s the closest we can get to a Priestess of the Moon that isn’t a hunter but a holy warrior IC.
So for many people they do not “abandon” their culture or religion, but are like ingame night elf priests, they show/appear to use Light ingame but actually use Elune in-Lore/In Character.
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That’s more about the Light / worship / indoctrination part and reference to the one night elf paladin in the order hall.
Would be much easier if they eased weapon / armour restrictions tbqh.
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it will elso nice to see some night elves that will leave their brothers society and join greymane,becasue they don’t want tyranda and elun
remember when only a small few could be certain classes and it felt special
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i say this because, the first account of how the light works in Warcraft is done by how Humans worship it. and blizzard has not really elaborated on it further until legion when they boldly claimed that any and all light worship, while using different methods and names for it, ultimately draws power from the same source. the Naaru and the light.
Human light worship stems from the abstract concept given to a human woman in a dream by a Naaru (chronicle volume 1) giving her an understanding on how to harness the light. and what we got out of it are the three virtues of the light. This is not a Human concept it is a Naaru concept translated into human culture.
Vindicators could speak directly to the Naaru and their practices and values are nearly identical to that of the Silver hand, just with out human cultural influences.
from there we got Blood knights who at first syphoned their light magic from a Naaru, but later converted to the Usual ways of light worship shared by the Vindicators and the silverhand, just through a blood elven cultural lens.
then come the Sunwalkers, we’re given little information as to how they practice the light. but in stories their light use is depicted to be similar to that of the previous mentioned paladin orders, just done through a Tauren cultural lens.
lastly Rezan was regarded as a sun god, he was honourable, brave, virtuous, and noble. all things that all Paladin orders represent. his prelates followed his way and it is clear to me how they accessed the light.
that is why i use “values” because that is what Faith in the light boils down too.
A lot of the Blood Knights still wield their powers via siphoning from the Sunwell, the majority of them, in fact, still do this. It’s just a handful of individuals that wield the Light through worship, but they do so in the same way as regular priests. There’s not any real cultural lens applied to Thalassian worship of the Light.
The Sunwell has always been an important aspect of Thalassian culture, but it played no large role in their religious beliefs.
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