Losing AV....EU Ally are good they said

Russian Allies winning like 90% of their AVs. learn from them.

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…its the same reason every game and noone cares.
allies try to blind push forward 2,3 horde grps are killing in the middle 50% of the alliance and now we lost the game…
btw i still try to win a game …maybe 8hours now?

Alliance gives up too easily.
You got people on here literally stating they just afk after the first push fails(and that the horde “turtle”) and whining about how the alliance doesn’t win.

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Ofc alliance gives up to fast, because the go to tactic for Horde is to turtle, turning what should be a 15-20 min BG into a 50 min bg.

But horde got their way, they cryed so much to blizz, that they removed av premades, so now alliance wins maby 10% of the matches, while horde turtle flex “you give up to fast”

Blizz should just either reopen for premade, or move the Horde spawn point to where it is in retail now.

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Horde always should have sfgy and ibgy do turtle and summon icelord to break the choke . Alliance always should have sfgy and shgy, turtle and summon ivus to break the choke. Its how classic av is meant to be .

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Well the Horde is winning so Blizzard is ok with that.

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No one cares about av. The actual good pvpers are in ab/warsong. If you are playing av, you are either doing it for rep, or you are trash

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Ally??? Good??? Troll bye bye post on classic. End of post!!!

Blizz shut it down

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I played 3 games today and won all 3 on my Alliance side Lock. Seems like Alliance are adapting, the tactic we employed worked every time.

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Traytor…

Boohoo, people who wait 50 mins in queue for a bg, actually work to win a bg. So horrible, that they won’t simply roll over and let you win.

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No they don’t.
Grinding on my alt hunter.
Out of the 5ruski teams i faced today they won a whopping 0 games.

My 2c
Am not whining, am mostly in ab premade these days win 99 out of 100 games (losing only from gehenas and venoxis r13 premades who use 100g cons per blacksmith fight).
So am not whining am just fascinated and shocked about today AV state.
Here is why.
In the last few days I decided to focus a bit more to AV, mostly to chill (not afk!) and relax from AB (which is getting boring too).
…Oh my, what AV just became…
I will try not to be rude, but that shieat fiesta down there can make even cool guy like me to became a bit toxic (.
Every game, I am gettin more and more shocked and fascinated, even charmed.
I do want to beleive that majority of these “new” alliance AV players (80% are rank 0-6, level 51-58 with blue and green gear) are just new horde alts in those few latest reroling waves…
First of all I do believe that 30 of 40 of those guys/girls doesnt know a word of english.
I am also sure few of them doesnt even know to read or write any language. Thats due to reason they are 4-8 years old or have some sort of disability.
Lets move on.
Every game there is STILL a number (2-3) of botters.
Every game there is STILL a number of stealth leechers (5-10?) who engage in game once or twice every 10 mins.
Every game there is a number of low lvl reputation farmers that simply cant understand that they will get same rep. per hour if they dont turtle pointlessly (alliance que times are 1-2 mins if u didnt notice).
Every game there are a guys so smart that wants to use obsolete broken tactics and spam rush Galv or Drekh (omega LuL).
U cant imagine what AV became these days.
First I played it for pure fun in first week when aliance had 90% win ratio.
Then I played it for a bit again when discord premades made alliance starts with 15 players. Even then it was better than this today.
And then i played it for 2 weeks again when discord premades where over and was pretty cool actually (even 5 of 10 wins in good days).
But then, after a almost months not playing it, I came back and I can tell, this is absolutely worst gaming experiance I ever had in my life.
I will play it for 1 more day maybe and will not touch it ever again.
Ever
Not even on my horde toons, tho shaman is revered and close to exalted.
Not touching this piece of poop ever again.
I will forbid it to my daughter too.
Sry for long text

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Ever single game I face alliance russian as horde in AV they gather at pit of shame and go straight for IBGY , wipe horde if they try to intercept and dont chase horde for one kill when they are at IBGY so the ally players dont spawn north when they die for one kill . ( they win majority of the games this way )

Everytime I see alliance EU as horde . they gather at balinda and rush galv and lose because its easier for horde to intercept .

The only people saying EU Alliance were good/had better winrates are NA horde trying to gaslight NA alliance into thinking they’re uniquely bad. Pretty disgusting tbh, but to be clear; we suffer from the same win/loss imbalance, map disadvantage and scorched earth approach from EU horde.

The only difference are the occasional matches vs Russians who usually still rush. Due to their alphabet they’re grouped together in a small number of servers and therefor can still premade like in the beginning of AV and use discord to communicate, which is a massive advantage in a game that needs a constantly updating strategy. That still leaves us with a >90% loss rate due to how rare those matches are.

AV is a horrible, snowy arsecrack of doom. I shall never put foot into that horrible place after i get my exalted off-hand.

WSG/AB Premades, here I come!

Why would the horde not want to win a BG that takes them ages to get into? lol.

If I had to wait 30+ minutes for A BG, I sure as hell would try to win it as well lmao.

I reached rank 10 by queuing AV exclusively.

It took me 4 weeks starting from Rank 6 this March.

My win rate was 40% and I farmed around 415k honor per week.

I usually queued with my guildies or other rankers though in a premade and I took steps to ensure that I would join only fresh games for max honor.

I usually raid-leaded too.

As you can see, I am wearing full Rank 10 gear.

Note: I never, ever played WSG or AB and I stopped doing PvP as soon as I reached R10.

Just comes down to the right tactics and if Alliance players actually listen. Got many wins over AV weekend with my premade, we used the tactic of hiding at SH GY (Hidden) and when horde come to cap it as a big group, wipe them, then alli stack at SH Bunker until Hordes IBGY respawn and let them passed then rush IBGY. Only issue with the SHGY stack is sometimes Horde have a team that go straight up North, so you can switch it up and hide/stack at icewing bunker to prevent a back door.

What about finding a new spot to hide ? Its pretty obvious that when ally dont come forward they re either “hidden” at SG gy or by the bunker.