But you’re overgearing yourself to ‘not waste people’s time’…
But what will kill you is mechanics, and what not. You dont do this, you die, even at mythic ilvl gear.
Are you even 70 at that point?
A minimum of effort is always expected.
Problem is when it’s become maximum effort expected, for content that absolutely don’t need it. Or are you trying to be ahead of the curve on an elitist team?
It’s really weird how it’s all portrayed like there is only one way to play the game.
i do yes i enjoy the content 9t also allows me to give players with less time then me the gear from raids which supports them.
i dont ask other people to do the same.
Do you even are understand what I am writting or not.
Everyone has a equal chance at loot. Mythic raids, high end keys, rated PvP are NOT locked behind some paywall or “VIP only” wall.
If you straight up went to mythic killed Razsgarath and came back and showed me your new 424 upgrade. I would say nothing of it. You did fought the boss, you killed him and you deserved the loot. Fair and square and me or anyone else can’t complain about.
I am not scared of people getting the same gear as me, maybe even better gear than me. If you are a better raider or m+ runner than me, then you fully deserve better gear than me.
Got that in your skull? Good. Thanks.
My opposition to your idea of “equality” is that if you /afk LFR then you should NOT get a mythic 424 gear same as a mythic raider who suffered 50+ wipes and put in great effort in it… because “eQuAliTy”.
Yes, u can be 340. what im establishing is, there is Always a Minimum u will take.
im not saying everyone plays the same way, my team allowed 365+ Into raid teams, I gear above that because i want to. it also means ican give the gear from raid to players with less time or gear then myself.
this overall helps my team.
Then you still have the chance to tell why you want to keep it exclusive and why you are completely ignorant to why it is exclusive.
And it’s not just about the gear. It’s about content that we pay for.
At end of the day I think we might agree. In first week of expansion at least 
And your point? Who siad anything was 340? You seem to act getting 360+ is hard, efford, what not?
There’s 360 ilvls out there in my guild doing 20+k dps and thats fine for normall.
Because you are using “exclusivity” as a synonym for “effort”.
If I get a mythic +15 reward. You can have it it too *IF YOU PUT in the same work as I did.
I still can’t find even common sense how its “exlusive” if I do a m+2 I get a m+2 reward and if I do a m+20, I get an m+20 reward. But if I am doing m+ 20 and expecting you to do m+20 as well if you want the same reward. Then I am all of a sudden “elitist and wanting to keep stuff exlusive”.
you are correct, Yes.
what im establishing to you, theres a Difference between a Self goal, And Spreading that expectation.
basically:
If i wanna grind and get 380 ilevel, thats no issue to you, that doesnt impact you.
if i tell u I expect you to be the same ilevel as me, then theres a Problem and i’d be unreasonable.
Just because i personally wanna get as high ilevel as i can, doesnt mean i expect everyone i group with to do the same, but if someone was 340 asking to raid.
I’d offer help to gear them alittle more ready for the Raid, Either this, or in a Normal for example. just funnel him gear.
IDC care about your keys. It’s not what it’s about at all. Like I have proposed. delete keys. Open the system. Let people play.
You completely fail to tell why you are against this. It’s got nothing to do with effort you still have to do the content, on whatever difficulty you manage. And you would be rewarded thereafter. You just don’t want to see beyond whatever bubble you are in.
I can understand you don’t like being called elitist, then stop acting like it. Mythics are not special to the point where you need to be elitist to play them, up to a point. A point you can play if you so wish. And those who you deem not putting in the “effort” would not be able to do.
You create problem where there are none. Heard that one before?
Yes, and what we established is that you are a hardcore player, because you’re competing with your guild mates over spots.
This isnt about your guild or something.
You said a while ago you wernt hardcore.
Yet here we are.
keys dont need to be deleted, the system is Open and u can play it. thats the argument here, theres no reason to delete this.
if u want to log on and do a M+ Key right this second. U can, theres no Requirement, no attunement, no blocks. the only blocks that exist is the person themself in most situations.
competing? no im not lol.
Im playing the worst class in the game DPS Wise, i’d be benched if that was even remotely true.
im not hardcore, i partake in a few M+ after a Days work. i raid Once a Week, whats the problem?
People can play and there have been solutions said already. If you refuse to use those options for whatever reason and demanding Daddy Blizzard to come and hold your hand via automation then its a YOU problem.
Blizzard’s job is to make sure you can log into the servers not shower you with loot because you are allergic to socialization with others…in a MMO game no less.
This go against what vast majority think of the system.
That vast majority is not represented in the playerbase which the game and players have adapted to for years. And it’s getting increasingly worse, therfor the loud backlash. I would ask you to take note of this and at least be open for some change. It is not a open system, just because you find it so.
the vast majority will never play the system regardless of what they do.
its a Staple proven point that the majority dont engage with the game beyond a Solo enviroment in all MMORPGS.
The only way ur going to fix that, is develope AI Groups to do the content with.
What has schedule raiding to do with hardcore?..
Warcraft logs tells a different story, cause you’re right in the middle bud.
(not that it matters for normall)
Like they won’t do normal, heroic and LFR. Yeah, certainly.
They logged off years ago or stick to heroics.
Its not a closed system because you have put some self-made phycological blocks either…
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/31#difficulty=4
where?
Devastations below Every class… every class has 1 specc above me.