M+ is a disaster

To many leavers
5 dungeons 4 leavers regardless of the timer even if u are in the range of + 2 ,
The rage quits are to many .
Start banning them .
It’s impossible to tell who will quit or who not ?
M+ is a huge part of what is wow retail today if u don’t anything to add you are simply letting toxicity run free .
I’m playing m+ since legion and i’m talking about thousand of dungeons each season .
Add improvements or i’m out .Pugging is literally disgusting and toxic as toxic it can get as a free game .

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I didn’t know this is a new thing :rofl: It was always like this in the pug world :dracthyr_nod:

When people complain about that many leavers, I always think about the common denominator.

For comparison, I’ve done more keys than I can count over the last few days (somewhere between 30 and 40, maybe?) and I’ve encountered one leaver. Even that one was a player who had queued for Fall, which turned out to be Rise when the key went in, and they still stuck it out until it was clear the group was going to struggle to even complete, never mind time.

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I didn’t have any leaver yet. All dungeons got finished.

Then i must be the unluckiest dude in the universe .OR you don’t play the game

Raider IO can provide the answer to that.

As for you being unlucky… maybe. Either that or you choose applicants badly. The tools to assess people are there even if most people choose not to use them.

Or youre the reason they are leaving…

So far i only had like 2 Dungeons where people left, specially this early into the Season people atleast stay for weeklys, if we are talking about like the range of 15-20. Since it’s atleast a weekly.

people leave usually if too many fails happen.

people currently still stay to get loot unless it is obvious that it will be a 50 death 20min OT run.
I even bricked my face into a wall in a +19 ToTT for 1h which in the end we just agreed to give up

in my 20+ runs this week I did not have a single leaver.
Most ran keys between 11 - 18

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I only encountered 1 leaver so far and it was from our guild :smiley: :smiley:
He was killed like 3 times in row in Everbloom and then he ragequit on Discord and left :smiley:

I only had one guy leave a +18 after the 5th wipe and I’ve pugged around 30 keys in the 13-14 range this week.
General tips are: do affixes and don’t push blame. Doesn’t matter who’s at fault, you may win the argument but lose the key.

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You don’t need raider IO. You have mythic+ score in the default game and what level they have completed that dungeon on previously.

For what do I not need Raider IO? How else is there a way to see how many keys a forum poster has done?

Is that the question? To see how many a forumposters has done? I thought the question was about seeing in game what ratio a player had? And for that you don’t need raider IO.

Seems you lost track of the conversation. I’ll quote it specially for you :slight_smile: (Emphasis in Mamaliga’s quote is mine.)

RaiderIO doesn’t know either :joy: I already notice unrecorded runs. I have no idea how that website works. Runs that are with randoms from communities even, so all the time other players. Not my premade.

Like on my paladin i timed with my premade +17 Waycrest with 5 minutes. It is on RaiderIO. I timed with randoms the same but 14 seconds in time. Not getting on the website. I checked how many runs i had done on my alt mistweaver which i only played with random groups and the site said 7. I log in for an 8th run because i like my vault, and the vault already has 8+ runs so i have the 3rd option open.

It’s just funny seeing how much worse your typical dps player is than the tank or even healer. They die all the time and many times do the same single target dps as the tank lol. Where did all the skilled EU dps players go I wonder.

The site was down for several hours last weekend, which left a massive backlog of runs to report. If no-one in those runs has manually updated their character, those runs probably haven’t been updated yet.

Not sure where your getting this from because it has not been my experience so far.

The contrary actually. People actually WANT to complete the dungeon anyways for gear.

Timed or not.

The only leavers I had were in extremely bad runs. Like 80 deaths and 20 min overtime bad. But there I understand it perfectly.

I did more then 40 dungeons last week on multiple chars and not even once i had people leave if dungeon was not a complete total disaster.

You people are just dishonest.

Or maybe you are like that lock i had in AD WHO at 450 itlv did literaly 24k dps.