M+ Leavers

Why are people mass-complaining about this as if this is the first time it has happened. This is no different than…ever?

It is exactly the same each season, people leave if you die to a trash pack. How are you not used to it by now? Why is this brand new news? How is this still surprising people. M+ and leaving goes hand-in-hand. If you want to push keys, make friends. If you want to waste your time, try to pug it. Welcome to M+, it has been like this forever and it will never change because it’s what people like, clearly. Otherwise people wouldn’t have done millions of keys each season through LFG.

100%, play with friends or find a Discord that do M+ groups.

Doing PUGs in M+ is frustrating as people do not pay attention, and I’ve left so many key runs +5 above before the first boss was even killed… because they kept on getting killed on the first boss.

2 wipes is my limit on a single boss, and then I’m gone.

Hense why I took a break and leveled up 3 alts over the last few days and today, I will try again with M+ >_<

That’s sadly the state of the forums. I wish it was a place for constructive criticism but it’s way too often polluted by whiners and irrelevant threads.

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Hl

Just because it’s happend before doesn’t mean it’s right, screw your head on. Why does it take until a huge problem/fall out for things to change.

Because, like in today’s world, people turn a blind eye to the problem and think it will fix itself. But when things get to a boiling point, only then do people react!

It’s “new” or actually more prominent because the scaling works different. In other words; it’s quite a bit harder on lower levels than before. Too slow in moving out of goo? Dead. Lacking 3 interrupts in a row? Potentially dead unless your healing is covering the group’s failures. And so forth.

This inevitably leads to a higher fail rate, on lower keys, and logically to more leavers.

While we’re on the topic of M+, does anyone know of any somewhat decent M+ discords?

I think Mythic Plus Friend is invite only or for some reason I can’t get onto their discord and a few others are NA only.

And my guild is normally social meaning, most of them are never online when you want them to be xD

Puny did a link not long ago

List of them there, they do a range from 2 to 10 atm.

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I think the last link has been updated since but this is the current list of communities we’ve heard good things about from other players:-

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I’m just amazed that there are external services for creating groups because the in game ones are to toxic, jezzz

Don’t PUG via the in-game group finder. It’s the equivalent of dumpster diving - the sandwich might be fine, or it might give you food poisoning.

The risk isn’t worth it when better alternatives are available.

Its because its happening more and at extremely low key levels and its the first week.

20 weeks in when youre geared and doing a key for score is different from week 1 when everyone is learning and will at least get smarter/ vault slots.

Context is important.

its not services its a community on discord for like minded players who want to do keys for fun or to push please read up before making such inane comments.

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How is that a ‘insane comment’, stop trying to bait. I didn’t mean it how you’ve read it. Chil your boots.

It just highlights that in-game problems are being solved by the community and I doubt these provided services (someone organises and runs this, so yes a service) are toxic free either.

inane read up

nobody organisies anything so you are just making stuff up and have no clue please stop trollin the thread.

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I will be joining these to give them a shot might have been very faster then in-game, thank you for the post and links.

Just bring a good attitude and your best effort and I can be confident in saying it will be overall a more pleasant experience than traditional pugging.

If it’s a high enough key track or we are pushing a key mostly we carry on, but have done most of my keys with some friends or guildies but we’ve had pugs in too ofc. Most of us want the rewards at this point. Don’t see the point of abandoning unless it’s you’re hitting a wall and can’t carry on.

Push up the difficulty, lower the bar for this behavior. Simple equation, really.

If only everyone actually did do M+ with the mindset to learn and get smarter, then it’d solve quite a significant part of the problem.

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Imagine if we could do dungeons with our warband. We could roll a healer, a tank and 3 dds. Then we go into dungeons and distribute the loot to all our characters. We would basically gear 5 Chars at once like Dragon Age Origins WoW edition.

Now that would be a bold new direction.