Edit: ok this is more accurate of a representation of what I was trying to say now. You can read it now
Edit: Sorry I am editing I did not finish writing this and accidentally posted it
If you reached the range of 18-20 without learning all the dungeons, then it is your job to either read on them or atleast COMMUNICATE to the group what to expect.
To be fair, people expect runs in the range of 10-14 to be for learning tactics.
Never been to anything above +16 so far.
I am only playing for 3 weeks (or so) and I leveled like 6 characters to 60 (leveling was really fun for me) and 3 to 70 I am not that good or far yet. But I do communicate it and the responses even though <+15 in 98% (just an guesstimation ofcourse as is almost any number I mention here probably) of the times I played were usually NOT nice. The most frequent thing that happened was no response or reaction at all, which is fine but not really “nice”, except sometimes leaving, sometimes in the middle of the dungeon due to a single wipe or a question or whatever else indicated to the person its not worth continuing the run.
Mind you: it needs only ONE person leaves and it is gg. Because: You cannot find another to fill the gap like in true LFG within like 1 min. Which would be enough to probably clear the dungeon still, even timed (at least on the occasions I encountered).
Even during LEVELING people were flaming (me and others) in dungeons and sometimes even leaving, albeit much more rarely. In M+ it was like every 2nd or 3rd run so far. In M+, in my experiences so far, it was rampant in comparison to that.
Would it be as rare as during leveling I would not have come here to write a topic in first place. Because everybody is having a bad day at some point, if it is as frequent as it was in M+ I must be either really bad of a person, really unlucky or, which I think is more likely, there are inherent design flaws.
I generally tend to communicate a lot as in trying to find a solution to a problem quickly if there was one wipe and I did not fully understand why we wiped. There is not much communication coming back in these cases, most of the time.
Often when I would tell people that I am not a pro before the dungeon, I would get one of three responses:
- no response at all, just leavers or rude behaviour inside the dungeon if it does not work out like “Read guide” and then a leave after like a single wipe and trying to fix the issue. If I want to read I will grab me a book. I understand that you have to read if you literally do not understand something, but there is an ingame journal for that (and I did use that, after I learned it exists LOL (yes I actually did not know this even in M+ until someone linked an ability from a boss to me. Might have been introduced to it by ingame tutorials which I probably ignored or forgot after 2 seconds)).
- “its ok” but the same of the rest above
- Comments like “Are you serious? xD” + a subsequent leave (mostly before the dungeon started so leaving is fine ofc) Especially remembering one time where I asked a specific question about a SINGLE mechanic of a SINGLE boss where I got that response → and then people leave again.