M+ no longer has a timer

And now? most ppl time a +10/15 and wait for the vault . just the RIO junkies push more

Then you really have to explain how it is killing wow. You just gave the argument that M+ and their timers nobody cares about. So it can not kill wow.

So you can still play the old way not caring about the timer if you only do 1 key/week and we can play the way we enjoy
 Where does this harm you?

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Becouse wow devs only focusing on esport gameplay killing of the rest of the casuals, only elitsm like mythic+.

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I can not respond on it since i do not know what the word casual means. There have been multiple topics about that word and nobody knows the definition.

I am even seeing myself as a casual. And i am happily playing M+.

So for some people it’s no different now, while for others it a new great game mode.
And in your mind this somehow kills wow? Some logic.

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I love this idea but that’s just my opinion since I’m a casual not a hardcore player too much stress is not fun for me and timer does that i like to take my time completing difficult content if you rush me i get angry thus i don’t like the timer.

But over time i got used to it,it doesn’t bother me as much now since i can do it if i want to with guild mates that reliefs stress of the timer but random pugs are the worst.

For a freaking +2 mists they declined me i was 210ilvl fire mage then I realized that the Elitist mentality had demonized the community now that require you to be Echo level skill and to have keystone master for a FREAKING +2 what the hell!.

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Have you considered, that there were only 3 DPS slots, and maybe they just took someone else who signed up, doesn’t mean elitist mentality 


Why would they have considered this? I mean, heaven’s forbid that THEY didn’t get chosen out of the 100’s of DPS that sign up for each key, eh? How DARE that group leader choose the 230 ilvl player over the 210 one! What ARE they thinking!

As mentioned above, you were not chosen because 100’s of other DPS are joining as well. I don’t look at spec, I look at who’s the highest ilvl, because the higher they are, the more chance I have of them doing decent damage (Theoretically of course).

It has NOTHING to do with being an Elitist. This term get’s thrown around so much it really doesn’t have any meaning anymore. The same as “casual”.

I consider myself a casual, but that’s because I do up to around +10 keys (Sometimes higher if I cba), but I barely touch M+, most of my content is raiding, which I mainly raid Heroic (Sometimes Mythic if there’s a spot in my guild). To me, this is around the casual level. I mainly do dailies in Korthia, the Calling and Torghast if I need to, then I jump off for the day and play other things.

than simply u should make that dungeon becames harder as u killing mobs and that mobs also getting weaker again 
 and stronger mobs u kill stronger gear u get

If it was also based on TBC heroics, I’d say yes, that is, if mobs were hitting so hard you’d have to use CCs and different kind of utilities in coordination, it’d be great.

‘‘deserve it’’ ??

ok judge Ludidokttor, from now on, players shall send writs of permission to your Highness to sign before they get any gear upgrades

So an irrelevant opinion, then ?

simply if u dont time +14 there is not reason to go to +15 that is simple

and no reason to downgrade the +14 to +13 other than promoting toxicity. simple

there is reason if u cant time it than u are not ready for +14 
 that u should do +13 which probaby u will be able to time

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