Even with a timer it offers no difficulty. The difficulty lies in finding people who have half a clue on how to move without pulling half the instance and what buttons to press.
I am glad that at least one more shares the same concerns.
Orignally it was only PvP that got esported. But they just had to make dungeons from a crawl to a race too.
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I would enjoy it a lot more if M+ was just afflixes on top of the base mythic.
The timer is what makes people so toxic in it.
Lots more people would enjoy it and M+ would no longer be an esport mode.
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WoW pve is garbage, timer or no.
Just look at torghast! It is completetly FAIL. The devs need to STOP doing like that. It is NOT part of World of Warcraft, it is all about to enjoy to play this game. Thats why it is getting worse and worse with what they are doing. WoW team REALLY need to change their minds soon else players will go away more. It is what I think so. But, timer is not only reason, there are alot things to add.
Have a nice summer!
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What we need is an option for timed Mythics and untimed Mythics. Some people want the hard aspect without the timer. Rewards could reflect this. The timer just adds to an already stressful situation if you are pugging.
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just remove downgrading if u fail
You wouldnât have to do that either. You could just do it at a level appriate to your speedrunning needs and run through it as fast as you can. Nobody stopping you.
People who like to actually play a dungeon rather than running through them canât really do that, though, as their keys will get killed. Rushing right now is mandatory and totally uninteresting to the people who donât like to rush or even those who have problems with anxiety and wonât even do them at all.
You realise that you can do keys by completely ignoring the timer right? You will still get an end of dungeon chest and it will also count towards the weekly box.
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if you want to find ppl to deplete keys, lack of players are not a issue. alot of playerbase struggle with ksm even at max bis gear. so go figgure. i know ppl doing CE not being capable to do 15s and forget about 20s, yes im talking about ppl being totally overgeared and not capeable, its a fact, and not mockery was not the intention, but i want you to understand to find ppl depleting keys will be much easier than you assume.
So gather your deplete squad and have fun!
(IMHO) the only reward for timed should had been a place in a leaderboard for bragging rights.
Anything more (seasonal rewards, more loot, keystone upgrade) is just baiting for boosts (and WoW token sales in extension)
No thanks, m+ is perfect the way it is.
Sounds amazing⊠pushing keys would boil down to waiting for every cooldown each pull. The only failure condition would be when you give up. Which might as well happen on some bosses during Tyrannical weeks when they become impossible to defeat. But no, itâs a horrible idea and should never be implemented.
show your main and stop trolling ⊠and simply if they remove m+ timer than every boss in dungeons should get enrage timer and maybe some other things should get enrage time ⊠simply if u remove m+ timer that u will be able to finish +15 every week ⊠also removing downgrade that will be like ⊠getting +15 key and just finishing it and doing it again and again ⊠even if u dont deserve it
On the SL alpha we got a glimpse of what that would be. We got it through Torghast (which shouldâve had a timer from the start btw). Some, not all, were waiting for cooldowns between each pull. Blizzardâs solution to this could not have been a timer, because the players hated that idea (and were wrong), so instead they just made everything way too easy to be fun and you could smash layer 8 final boss with no cooldowns at all.
The timer is one of the main redeeming qualities of M+. With valor points in the game, not caring about the timer is in many ways more rewarding because you get double the loot, even if one of the items is 3 ilvls lower. You can just upgrade it with valor.
30-40 minutes for a dungeon is not exactly speed-running.
i like TBC wimewalkings, especially when they were unnerfed.
so i could see an option to play it like that.
but i can see the adrenalin rush people get from timing dungeons as a positive too.
so i see both pros and cons.
thx to the timers Wow ist almost dead right now .
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M+ is just added on top of the game. The game is not better without. There will be a game option less to play. Before M+ you played a dungeon 1 time.
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